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Attributes | |
ACN | 1493257 |
Time | |
Date | 201711 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | SBA.TRACON |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | SR22 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Descent Final Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Learjet 60 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Approach Instructor |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 4 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Trainee Approach |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Developmental |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT |
Narrative:
Aircraft X was being vectored for the RNAV approach when aircraft Y checked in for the visual approach. The trainee decided to make aircraft Y number one and take aircraft X off their approach. When he did this he gave aircraft X a right turn; northbound toward higher terrain and the aircraft was at 2500 ft. The aircraft had to ask him if he wanted her to maintain 2500 ft; in which he agreed. I immediately advised him not to turn the aircraft northbound and to continue her turn back southbound. When he gave the aircraft a turn it was to a 100 heading and the aircraft replied with; 'was that for me'? He did not hear her say that and at this point was entering a 3400 ft MVA (minimum vectoring altitude).I took over and proceeded to turn her immediately to a heading of 180 for higher terrain and attained from the pilot that they could maintain their own terrain clearance; to which they answered in the affirmative. This turn to the north has many consequences. One of which the trainee witnessed today. The aircraft can lose radio contact; not hear you; take a late or slow turn or fly into clouds or into terrain. I advised the trainee of several of the issues that can arise from turning aircraft northbound into a higher MVA. More education and experience in radar will help him learn.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SBA TRACON Controller reported ATC trainee vectored an aircraft off the approach into an area with a higher Minimum Vectoring Altitude.
Narrative: Aircraft X was being vectored for the RNAV Approach when Aircraft Y checked in for the Visual Approach. The trainee decided to make Aircraft Y number one and take Aircraft X off their approach. When he did this he gave Aircraft X a right turn; northbound toward higher terrain and the aircraft was at 2500 ft. The aircraft had to ask him if he wanted her to maintain 2500 ft; in which he agreed. I immediately advised him not to turn the aircraft northbound and to continue her turn back southbound. When he gave the aircraft a turn it was to a 100 heading and the aircraft replied with; 'Was that for me'? He did not hear her say that and at this point was entering a 3400 ft MVA (Minimum vectoring Altitude).I took over and proceeded to turn her immediately to a heading of 180 for higher terrain and attained from the pilot that they could maintain their own terrain clearance; to which they answered in the affirmative. This turn to the north has many consequences. One of which the trainee witnessed today. The aircraft can lose radio contact; not hear you; take a late or slow turn or fly into clouds or into terrain. I advised the trainee of several of the issues that can arise from turning aircraft northbound into a higher MVA. More education and experience in radar will help him learn.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.