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Attributes | |
ACN | 1497955 |
Time | |
Date | 201711 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | LFT.Airport |
State Reference | LA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Flight Phase | Takeoff |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Flight Phase | Landing |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Person 1 | |
Function | Single Pilot |
Qualification | Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Instrument |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 25 Flight Crew Total 4000 Flight Crew Type 1000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 500 Vertical 500 |
Narrative:
I requested a takeoff clearance from tower of a southeast takeoff from a taxiway; right turn to heading 275 at 1;000 feet. I received a clearance of 'cleared for takeoff from taxiway ...'. Following this clearance with the incorrect taxiway location; I queried the controller with respect to the taxiway and asked him to confirm which taxiway he meant. He responded to me with frustration and repeated the clearance back to me as 'aircraft X; you are cleared for takeoff from taxiway ...; remain west of runway ... For landing traffic'. I repeated the clearance back and proceeded to fly a southeast takeoff into the wind choosing to parallel the runways in order to avoid overflight of multiple hangars; buildings as well as the control tower. During the takeoff as I was climbing through 300 to 400 feet the controller keyed the radio and said 'aircraft X what are you doing; there's a [another aircraft] on short final I'm getting an alert' in a frustrated tone. I responded with I'm west of the runway sir. The radio was silent until he queried me as to my altitude leaving which was then 700 feet. There was no further communication.I believe a takeoff in the direction of landing traffic was not the most advisable. In hindsight a left turn out would have been more appropriate. A takeoff in the direction I used would have required a steep turn beyond 30 degrees in order to avoid the takeoff end of the runway and over flight on hangars which is why I chose to fly in the general direction I did. In the future I will not accept a clearance that approves a takeoff in the direction of landing traffic. I do not see the benefit of this clearance. Waiting an additional minute or two for the traffic to land is the most beneficial.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A helicopter pilot reported a disagreement between them an ATC about the departure instructions.
Narrative: I requested a takeoff clearance from Tower of a southeast takeoff from a Taxiway; right turn to heading 275 at 1;000 feet. I received a clearance of 'Cleared for takeoff from Taxiway ...'. Following this clearance with the incorrect taxiway location; I queried the controller with respect to the taxiway and asked him to confirm which taxiway he meant. He responded to me with frustration and repeated the clearance back to me as 'Aircraft X; you are cleared for takeoff from Taxiway ...; remain West of Runway ... for landing traffic'. I repeated the clearance back and proceeded to fly a southeast takeoff into the wind choosing to parallel the runways in order to avoid overflight of multiple hangars; buildings as well as the control Tower. During the takeoff as I was climbing through 300 to 400 feet the controller keyed the radio and said 'Aircraft X what are you doing; there's a [another aircraft] on short final I'm getting an alert' in a frustrated tone. I responded with I'm West of the runway sir. The radio was silent until he queried me as to my altitude leaving which was then 700 feet. There was no further communication.I believe a takeoff in the direction of landing traffic was not the most advisable. In hindsight a left turn out would have been more appropriate. A takeoff in the direction I used would have required a steep turn beyond 30 degrees in order to avoid the takeoff end of the runway and over flight on hangars which is why I chose to fly in the general direction I did. In the future I will not accept a clearance that approves a takeoff in the direction of landing traffic. I do not see the benefit of this clearance. Waiting an additional minute or two for the traffic to land is the most beneficial.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.