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Attributes | |
ACN | 1499220 |
Time | |
Date | 201711 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ONT.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Route In Use | SID RAJEE2 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Total 15000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Altitude Overshoot Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
During climb on ont SID; received numerous clearances last one being climb via SID except maintain 14;000. We blew through the 7;000 foot altitude at rajee by a few hundred feet and were correcting when ATC queried us. Said [our company] aircraft were a problem.flown out of ont for years on all versions of the same or similar SID off 26R; hard left turn; 4;000 feet then 7;000 feet. New visual jeppesen SID/STAR altitude depictions are a problem; as are the numerous expected changes in expected ATC clearances over the years. (Maintain 4;000; ignore 4;000; but maintain 7;000; climb unrestricted; climb via except maintain.)improve ATC phraseology to be more specific; or just let us fly the SID/STAR as programmed. Seems like the more workload we dump on automation and then change it to cram more traffic in the same airspace causes most of the problems.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-800 Captain reported while on RAJEE SID; ATC issued numerous amendments to published procedure using non-standard; or nonspecific phraseology. This; along with new Visual Jeppesen SID altitude depictions contributed to altitude deviation.
Narrative: During climb on ONT SID; received numerous clearances last one being climb via SID except maintain 14;000. We blew through the 7;000 foot altitude at RAJEE by a few hundred feet and were correcting when ATC queried us. Said [our company] aircraft were a problem.Flown out of ONT for years on all versions of the same or similar SID off 26R; hard left turn; 4;000 feet then 7;000 feet. New visual Jeppesen SID/STAR altitude depictions are a problem; as are the numerous expected changes in expected ATC clearances over the years. (Maintain 4;000; ignore 4;000; but maintain 7;000; climb unrestricted; climb via except maintain.)Improve ATC phraseology to be more specific; or just let us fly the SID/STAR as programmed. Seems like the more workload we dump on automation and then change it to cram more traffic in the same airspace causes most of the problems.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.