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Attributes | |
ACN | 1509489 |
Time | |
Date | 201801 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | PIT.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Ramp |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
After being deiced at the gate; frost was left on the aircraft on the rudder (both sides); and both winglets upper inside and the full outside from top to bottom. A second aircraft reported the same issue to operations. I advised my lead of this find on pre-departure walk-around. The flight crew was notified; and was thankful of the find. They said they would be heading to the deice pad for a respray. Crash fire rescue equipment 121.629 clean aircraft concept was not followed on either aircraft. Meanwhile; they are out there right now spraying an aircraft that doesn't leave for another 2 hours. The amount of deicing fluid on the ground is significant compared to the actual contamination. The deicers need to get closer so the heat transfers to the airplane. When spraying from 25 feet or more you lose that heat transfer and lose the effectiveness.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Ramp personnel reported aircraft not clear of frost at the completion of aircraft deicing.
Narrative: After being deiced at the gate; frost was left on the aircraft on the rudder (both sides); and both winglets upper inside and the full outside from top to bottom. A second aircraft reported the same issue to operations. I advised my Lead of this find on pre-departure walk-around. The flight crew was notified; and was thankful of the find. They said they would be heading to the deice pad for a respray. CFR 121.629 Clean Aircraft Concept was not followed on either aircraft. Meanwhile; they are out there right now spraying an aircraft that doesn't leave for another 2 hours. The amount of deicing fluid on the ground is significant compared to the actual contamination. The deicers need to get closer so the heat transfers to the airplane. When spraying from 25 feet or more you lose that heat transfer and lose the effectiveness.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.