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Attributes | |
ACN | 1512591 |
Time | |
Date | 201801 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZFW.ARTCC |
State Reference | TX |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | A319 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Route In Use | SID DARTZ SEVEN |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | DC-3/Dakota/Skytrain |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Total 12880 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
On the DARTZ7 departure around 11;500 ft MSL; ZFW center called out traffic (dc-3) at our 10 O'clock. After acquiring the traffic; we called visual. As we continued our southbound climb; we noticed the traffic start a turn into us. We received a TCAS traffic & resolution advisory to descend. We complied and I communicated this to ATC. The dc-3 passed above and behind us.when ATC made the call on traffic to us; we were able to acquire it visually. I'm not sure why ATC stopped giving us advisories unless the radar sweep was slow and he was not able to see the traffic turn into us. The TCAS (great tool) provided us backup to what we both could already see was about to happen if we did not intervene our flightpath. Later via a phone conversation with the captain; the ATC supervisor said the controller thought we were responsible for separation because we called traffic in sight.if in doubt; communicate early with ATC about your intentions or clarify your concerns about who is responsible for separation. When all else fails; rely on your training (back to the basics)...TCAS TA/RA procedures; traffic avoidance; etc. Also; this is a good reminder for us all in the cockpit of how important visual lookout is in all environments and the techniques we have (automation/autopilot) that allow us to maintain situational awareness while we look for potential threats.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A319 First Officer reported an airborne conflict during the climb out after reporting traffic in sight to ATC.
Narrative: On the DARTZ7 departure around 11;500 ft MSL; ZFW Center called out traffic (DC-3) at our 10 O'clock. After acquiring the traffic; we called visual. As we continued our southbound climb; we noticed the traffic start a turn into us. We received a TCAS Traffic & Resolution Advisory to descend. We complied and I communicated this to ATC. The DC-3 passed above and behind us.When ATC made the call on traffic to us; we were able to acquire it visually. I'm not sure why ATC stopped giving us advisories unless the radar sweep was slow and he was not able to see the traffic turn into us. The TCAS (great tool) provided us backup to what we both could already see was about to happen if we did not intervene our flightpath. Later via a phone conversation with the Captain; the ATC supervisor said the Controller thought we were responsible for separation because we called traffic in sight.If in doubt; communicate early with ATC about your intentions or clarify your concerns about who is responsible for separation. When all else fails; rely on your training (back to the basics)...TCAS TA/RA procedures; traffic avoidance; etc. Also; this is a good reminder for us all in the cockpit of how important visual lookout is in all environments and the techniques we have (automation/autopilot) that allow us to maintain situational awareness while we look for potential threats.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.