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Attributes | |
ACN | 1524191 |
Time | |
Date | 201803 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | BTR.TRACON |
State Reference | LA |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Local |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Ground Conflict Less Severe Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Clearance |
Narrative:
Aircraft X called on recorded line to pickup clearance off satellite airport. The controller in charge (CIC2) answered the line and asked if he could give the clearance. I said yes and called msy approach to block the airspace up to 3000' as this airport is 3.3 miles west of their airspace. I heard the CIC2 tell the pilot to enter controlled airspace (without a direction of turn) then the CIC2 advised the pilot to fly runway heading climb to 3000'. (The CIC2 did not know that I had called msy to block the airspace.) the pilot was never asked if he could maintain his own terrain separation as required per the 7110.65 and the last briefing we received about satellite departures.we have supervisors that constantly tell controllers not to call msy and block the airspace because they are 'laughing at us' but they do not follow thru on the fact that there is more to a satellite departure clearance other than to 'enter controlled airspace' on a heading. Most controllers do not even ask what runway the aircraft will depart on; but still issue the 'enter controlled airspace' clearance. Due to the close proximity of this airport to another approaches airspace; and the fact that if the pilot happens to turn east to enter controlled airspace (which they are not being told not to do) then they will be in msy approach's airspace within a few seconds. If the 'enter controlled airspace heading ...' clearance was complete you would still have to call msy approach and block the airspace or give the aircraft a west departure heading to ensure that they don't enter msy controlled airspace and not btr controlled airspace. Controllers follow the last briefing/clarification we received on satellite departures (not happening); on the job training (ojti) train the procedure correctly (not happening) and supervisors quit telling controllers that msy doesn't like us calling them and they are laughing at us. If we are doing our job and this procedure in accordance with the 7110.65 who cares what msy approach thinks.this procedure is done incorrectly almost every single time because the terrain separation question is not being asked appropriately.the people who are supposed to ensure that the operation is handled correctly (supervisors) are never in the operation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BTR Controller reported the Controller in Charge issued incorrect departure clearance to IFR aircraft off a satellite airport. Controller reported this procedure was covered in briefing; yet still misapplied.
Narrative: Aircraft X called on recorded line to pickup clearance off satellite airport. The Controller in Charge (CIC2) answered the line and asked if he could give the clearance. I said yes and called MSY approach to block the airspace up to 3000' as this airport is 3.3 miles west of their airspace. I heard the CIC2 tell the pilot to enter controlled airspace (without a direction of turn) then the CIC2 advised the pilot to fly runway heading climb to 3000'. (The CIC2 did not know that I had called MSY to block the airspace.) The pilot was never asked if he could maintain his own terrain separation as required per the 7110.65 and the last briefing we received about satellite departures.We have supervisors that constantly tell controllers not to call MSY and block the airspace because they are 'laughing at us' but they do not follow thru on the fact that there is more to a satellite departure clearance other than to 'enter controlled airspace' on a heading. Most controllers do not even ask what runway the aircraft will depart on; but still issue the 'enter controlled airspace' clearance. Due to the close proximity of this airport to another approaches airspace; and the fact that IF the pilot happens to turn east to enter controlled airspace (which they are not being told not to do) then they will be in MSY approach's airspace within a few seconds. If the 'enter controlled airspace heading ...' clearance was complete you would STILL have to call MSY approach and block the airspace OR give the aircraft a west departure heading to ensure that they don't enter MSY controlled airspace and not BTR controlled airspace. Controllers follow the last briefing/clarification we received on satellite departures (not happening); On the Job Training (OJTI) train the procedure correctly (not happening) and supervisors quit telling controllers that MSY doesn't like us calling them and they are laughing at us. If we are doing our job and this procedure in accordance with the 7110.65 who cares what MSY approach thinks.This procedure is done incorrectly almost every single time because the terrain separation question is not being asked appropriately.The people who are supposed to ensure that the operation is handled correctly (supervisors) are NEVER in the operation.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.