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Flight of two military aircraft came very close to an aircraft departing from an uncontrolled airport.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 152959 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199007 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : 3km |
| State Reference | KS |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3300 msl bound upper : 3300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | military facility : iab tracon : ict |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Fighter |
| Flight Phase | cruise other landing other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 1430 flight time type : 210 |
| ASRS Report | 152959 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were departing 3KMC (wichita jubara). After obtaining an IFR release from wichita approach we departed runway 18 and started a left hand turn towards 040 degree after contacting approach control we were told radar 'contact climb and maintain 4000', traffic 1 O'clock less than a mi.' about 2 seconds later (passing through 2300') 2 military fgt in tight formation passed from our left to our right and 100-200' horizontally. Myself and the captain were the only ones to see the 2 aircraft. There was no time or room for any evasive action at all. Had we not been in a 35 degree banking left hand turn or had we been realeased 2 seconds later I would not be filing this report. We had approach control give us a call when we landed, which they did. We were told that the fgt were VFR and in a pattern at mcconnell AFB. As far as I could tell the aircraft were about 7-10 mi from mcconnell AFB. Why they flew such a large pattern I'll never know. There are a couple of recommendations. Have mcconnell tower notify wichita approach as to what the traffic is doing at mcconnell AFB ie large patterns. If there are any aircraft moving at a high rate of speed and VFR. The controllers should not release an aircraft into controled airspace until he is sure of what the VFR traffic is going to do. Mcconnell AFB and wichita approach should have better communications between the 2 facs so this does not happen again. A near midair report was requested by us, and wichita approach initiated the paperwork. The controller that was working us was a student, his instrument should have seen the fast moving VFR targets.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT OF TWO MIL ACFT CAME VERY CLOSE TO AN ACFT DEPARTING FROM AN UNCTLED ARPT.
Narrative: WE WERE DEPARTING 3KMC (WICHITA JUBARA). AFTER OBTAINING AN IFR RELEASE FROM WICHITA APCH WE DEPARTED RWY 18 AND STARTED A L HAND TURN TOWARDS 040 DEG AFTER CONTACTING APCH CTL WE WERE TOLD RADAR 'CONTACT CLB AND MAINTAIN 4000', TFC 1 O'CLOCK LESS THAN A MI.' ABOUT 2 SECS LATER (PASSING THROUGH 2300') 2 MIL FGT IN TIGHT FORMATION PASSED FROM OUR L TO OUR R AND 100-200' HORIZLY. MYSELF AND THE CAPT WERE THE ONLY ONES TO SEE THE 2 ACFT. THERE WAS NO TIME OR ROOM FOR ANY EVASIVE ACTION AT ALL. HAD WE NOT BEEN IN A 35 DEG BANKING L HAND TURN OR HAD WE BEEN REALEASED 2 SECS LATER I WOULD NOT BE FILING THIS RPT. WE HAD APCH CTL GIVE US A CALL WHEN WE LANDED, WHICH THEY DID. WE WERE TOLD THAT THE FGT WERE VFR AND IN A PATTERN AT MCCONNELL AFB. AS FAR AS I COULD TELL THE ACFT WERE ABOUT 7-10 MI FROM MCCONNELL AFB. WHY THEY FLEW SUCH A LARGE PATTERN I'LL NEVER KNOW. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS. HAVE MCCONNELL TWR NOTIFY WICHITA APCH AS TO WHAT THE TFC IS DOING AT MCCONNELL AFB IE LARGE PATTERNS. IF THERE ARE ANY ACFT MOVING AT A HIGH RATE OF SPD AND VFR. THE CTLRS SHOULD NOT RELEASE AN ACFT INTO CTLED AIRSPACE UNTIL HE IS SURE OF WHAT THE VFR TFC IS GOING TO DO. MCCONNELL AFB AND WICHITA APCH SHOULD HAVE BETTER COMS BTWN THE 2 FACS SO THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. A NEAR MIDAIR RPT WAS REQUESTED BY US, AND WICHITA APCH INITIATED THE PAPERWORK. THE CTLR THAT WAS WORKING US WAS A STUDENT, HIS INSTR SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE FAST MOVING VFR TARGETS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.