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Attributes | |
ACN | 1529805 |
Time | |
Date | 201803 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | TEB.Airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Hawker 4000 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Route In Use | Vectors STAR LVZ 4 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Flight Instructor |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 90 Flight Crew Total 11900 Flight Crew Type 1000 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 75 Flight Crew Total 15500 Flight Crew Type 1600 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT |
Narrative:
Descending into teb on vectors to an ILS approach. The ceiling was solid overcast at 1;000 feet; clear above. The top altitude for the approach is 2;000 feet. When being vectored to the ILS approach it's normal to descend to 2;000 feet early. We were about 30 miles from the airport when the controller descended us to 2;000 feet and we clearly read back 2;000 feet. GPWS was displayed on flight displays and all green. It was an early departure and maybe our alert level was lower. We didn't question the descent because it was generally expected. However; since we were further north; there was some terrain and the 2;000 foot altitude would have brought us within 500 feet vertically. We were at 6;000 feet when given the 2;000 foot descent and when descending through about 3;000 feet the controller corrected his error and told us to stop at 3;000 feet! We did not question nor did he comment on our clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Hawker 4000 flight crew reported descending below the MVA during approach to TEB airport.
Narrative: Descending into TEB on vectors to an ILS Approach. The ceiling was solid overcast at 1;000 feet; clear above. The top altitude for the approach is 2;000 feet. When being vectored to the ILS Approach it's normal to descend to 2;000 feet early. We were about 30 miles from the airport when the controller descended us to 2;000 feet and we clearly read back 2;000 feet. GPWS was displayed on flight displays and all green. It was an early departure and maybe our alert level was lower. We didn't question the descent because it was generally expected. However; since we were further north; there was some terrain and the 2;000 foot altitude would have brought us within 500 feet vertically. We were at 6;000 feet when given the 2;000 foot descent and when descending through about 3;000 feet the controller corrected his error and told us to stop at 3;000 feet! We did not question nor did he comment on our clearance.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.