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B737-700 first officer reported ATC insisted on issuing reroutes; which placed them more than 162 NM offshore.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1533281 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201804 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZMA.ARTCC |
| State Reference | FL |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B737-700 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Climb Cruise |
| Route In Use | Direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 522 Flight Crew Type 10000 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural FAR |
Narrative:
We received multiple ATC reroute requests/suggestions offered with direct routing. These suggestions were 'forceful' and very 'pushy.' only because there was weather offshore we did not immediately accept the direct routing. After initially asking for flight plan route; ATC tried again several times to give us more direct routing. After checking the weather; we looked at the international flight operation manual (ifom) caribbean region and we chose to plot our 162 NM restriction. Sure enough; we would've busted it with ATC's suggestions. We declared 'unable' and were given more westerly routing. As soon as we passed the western apex of the 162 NM range area; and without us asking; ATC cleared us direct [fix] and then to destination. They more than led us down the primrose path here. I'd like to strongly suggest this is highlighted in the international SOP pages for the caribbean because ATC could not have cared less about it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-700 First Officer reported ATC insisted on issuing reroutes; which placed them more than 162 NM offshore.
Narrative: We received multiple ATC reroute requests/suggestions offered with direct routing. These suggestions were 'forceful' and very 'pushy.' Only because there was weather offshore we did not immediately accept the direct routing. After initially asking for flight plan route; ATC tried again several times to give us more direct routing. After checking the weather; we looked at the International Flight Operation Manual (IFOM) Caribbean Region and we chose to plot our 162 NM restriction. Sure enough; we would've busted it with ATC's suggestions. We declared 'unable' and were given more westerly routing. As soon as we passed the western APEX of the 162 NM range area; and without us asking; ATC cleared us direct [fix] and then to destination. They more than led us down the primrose path here. I'd like to strongly suggest this is highlighted in the International SOP pages for the Caribbean because ATC could not have cared less about it.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.