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Attributes | |
ACN | 1536668 |
Time | |
Date | 201804 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | PDK.Airport |
State Reference | GA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | EMB-505 / Phenom 300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Cirrus Aircraft Undifferentiated |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 80 Flight Crew Total 11000 Flight Crew Type 1150 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Flying First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Flight Engineer Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Instrument |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 90 Flight Crew Total 24000 Flight Crew Type 1000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict NMAC Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 400 Vertical 200 |
Narrative:
We were departing runway 21L at pdk. With our takeoff clearance we were given a heading of 270 and a traffic call. I read back all except I 'rogered' the traffic instead of saying 'looking.'after takeoff; cleaning up; after turning to 270 the tower asked again if we had the traffic; and I said no that we were looking. We did see the traffic on TCAS but never saw him due to maybe sun angle; not sure. Regardless the tower gave us a 10 degree heading change that turned out to be pretty important. Also about that time we received an RA climb command as we approached level off at 3;000 feet.once we got the RA command I mentioned to the tower that we finally had the traffic in sight as we climbed to 3;800 feet or so with 3;000 feet assigned; and was switching to departure as I wanted to talk with the controllers of the airspace that we had just entered. We switched to departure and immediately reported the RA.after landing at final destination we called the tower and debriefed the incident with them. Our point was that even had we seen the aircraft sooner we would have had to ask to deviate or still had an RA. From what we saw; the traffic (a cirrus) was climbing and was very close to our altitude at 3;000 feet.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Phenom 300 flight crew reported a NMAC on departure while following ATC instructions.
Narrative: We were departing runway 21L at PDK. With our takeoff clearance we were given a heading of 270 and a traffic call. I read back all except I 'rogered' the traffic instead of saying 'looking.'After takeoff; cleaning up; after turning to 270 the tower asked again if we had the traffic; and I said no that we were looking. We did see the traffic on TCAS but never saw him due to maybe sun angle; not sure. Regardless the tower gave us a 10 degree heading change that turned out to be pretty important. Also about that time we received an RA Climb command as we approached level off at 3;000 feet.Once we got the RA command I mentioned to the tower that we finally had the traffic in sight as we climbed to 3;800 feet or so with 3;000 feet assigned; and was switching to departure as I wanted to talk with the controllers of the airspace that we had just entered. We switched to departure and immediately reported the RA.After landing at final destination we called the tower and debriefed the incident with them. Our point was that even had we seen the aircraft sooner we would have had to ask to deviate or still had an RA. From what we saw; the traffic (a Cirrus) was climbing and was very close to our altitude at 3;000 feet.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.