37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 1538491 |
Time | |
Date | 201804 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | DEN.Airport |
State Reference | CO |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Embraer Jet Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types Flight Deck / Cabin / Aircraft Event Other / Unknown |
Narrative:
Flying through the localizer and communication breakdown were two causes. In cases where it appears the plane will fly through the localizer; good communication goes a long way toward solving the problem. The localizer overshoot happened when approaching to land on 16L. After flying through the localizer; the first officer took controls and landed while I was turning back to the localizer.while enroute we were initially advised that we would land on 17R. Some time passed and our new runway assignment was 16L. We were assigned 8;000 feet; 210 knots and a heading to intercept the 16L localizer. The first officer extended the centerline and we maintained a heading to intercept. Later; the controller instructed us to proceed direct leets; and shortly after; cleared us for the visual 16L. I continued to fly using direct to leets with LNAV and autopilot. I verified with the first officer that we were cleared for the visual and instructed him to set 7;000 feet. I looked down to make sure we continued the descent as we had not yet reached 8;000 feet.as we approached the final approach course; I switched from LNAV to localizer; selected heading mode and pressed the approach mode button. At some point; I called for flaps 9; then gear down and flaps 22. I looked outside for a moment and realized we flew through the localizer. At that point; I disconnected the autopilot and started a turn back to the localizer. While initiating the turn; I felt that the controls were a little heavier than usual. At that point; I heard the first officer say he had the flight controls. When lined up on the runway; I told the first officer I would take the controls; but he did not agree. I was not going to argue about it so I let him land. This entire sequence took place with no localizer alive callouts and no callout to indicate we were crossing the localizer. The first I heard was 'I have the controls.' good communication would prevent this problem from ever happening.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Regional airline Captain reported that after overshooting the localizer; the First Officer took control of the aircraft; would not relinquish control and continued to complete the landing.
Narrative: Flying through the localizer and communication breakdown were two causes. In cases where it appears the plane will fly through the localizer; good communication goes a long way toward solving the problem. The localizer overshoot happened when approaching to land on 16L. After flying through the localizer; the First Officer took controls and landed while I was turning back to the localizer.While enroute we were initially advised that we would land on 17R. Some time passed and our new runway assignment was 16L. We were assigned 8;000 feet; 210 knots and a heading to intercept the 16L localizer. The First Officer extended the centerline and we maintained a heading to intercept. Later; the Controller instructed us to proceed direct LEETS; and shortly after; cleared us for the visual 16L. I continued to fly using direct to LEETS with LNAV and autopilot. I verified with the First Officer that we were cleared for the visual and instructed him to set 7;000 feet. I looked down to make sure we continued the descent as we had not yet reached 8;000 feet.As we approached the final approach course; I switched from LNAV to LOC; selected heading mode and pressed the approach mode button. At some point; I called for flaps 9; then gear down and flaps 22. I looked outside for a moment and realized we flew through the localizer. At that point; I disconnected the autopilot and started a turn back to the localizer. While initiating the turn; I felt that the controls were a little heavier than usual. At that point; I heard the First Officer say he had the flight controls. When lined up on the runway; I told the First Officer I would take the controls; but he did not agree. I was not going to argue about it so I let him land. This entire sequence took place with no localizer alive callouts and no callout to indicate we were crossing the localizer. The first I heard was 'I have the controls.' Good communication would prevent this problem from ever happening.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.