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Attributes | |
ACN | 1552622 |
Time | |
Date | 201806 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 170/175 ER/LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Check Pilot |
Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Multiengine |
Events | |
Anomaly | Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT Inflight Event / Encounter Unstabilized Approach |
Narrative:
I conducted a line check on the crew operating from ZZZ1-ZZZ-ZZZ1. As the crew started descending into ZZZ; they were told to expect the visual approval for yyr. The weather was clear skies and light winds favoring runway yy's. They briefed the approach and used the RNAV approach that is extractable from the FMS as guidance to back it up; as we do not have any charts for runway yyr. The crew was given a heading close to 90 degrees to intercept the final approach course as they were cleared for the visual. This was going to make the crew intercept the final approach course inside the FAF that was programmed in the box. The captain bugged an altitude of 3;100 feet; while the FAF had an altitude of 4;300 feet. As they were coming on a right base they continued to descent below 4;300 feet. About 7 miles from the FAF they got a caution message of obstacle; and a few seconds later they got the egpws warning of 'terrain; terrain; pull up.' the captain disconnected the ap; added power and brought the airplane back up to 4;300-4;400 feet. They continued the approach and landed the plane uneventful.on the ground we did a thorough debrief about what happened on the approach; the captain admitted he was concerned about being high and unstable for the approach at a 1;000 feet. However he realized that it was a mistake to bug such a low altitude and starting the descent that early. I made the decision that I wanted to see the captain fly the second leg back to ZZZ1; and setting up for another visual approach.the flight back to ZZZ1 was satisfactory; the crew demonstrated proficiency in all observed tasks and standards were met.the crew could have executed a missed approach by using go-around procedures. However they used the flight controls and thrust as necessary to correct the airplane attitude and flight path according to the message presented; to provide terrain clearance; and maintained it until the warning ceased.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB-175 Check Pilot reported a caution message of obstacle came up; and a few seconds later the EGPWS warning of 'terrain; terrain; pull up' sounded.
Narrative: I conducted a line check on the crew operating from ZZZ1-ZZZ-ZZZ1. As the crew started descending into ZZZ; they were told to expect the visual approval for YYR. The weather was clear skies and light winds favoring runway YY's. They briefed the approach and used the RNAV approach that is extractable from the FMS as guidance to back it up; as we do not have any charts for runway YYR. The crew was given a heading close to 90 degrees to intercept the final approach course as they were cleared for the visual. This was going to make the crew intercept the final approach course inside the FAF that was programmed in the box. The Captain bugged an altitude of 3;100 feet; while the FAF had an altitude of 4;300 feet. As they were coming on a right base they continued to descent below 4;300 feet. About 7 miles from the FAF they got a caution message of obstacle; and a few seconds later they got the EGPWS warning of 'terrain; terrain; pull up.' The Captain disconnected the AP; added power and brought the airplane back up to 4;300-4;400 feet. They continued the approach and landed the plane uneventful.On the ground we did a thorough debrief about what happened on the approach; the Captain admitted he was concerned about being high and unstable for the approach at a 1;000 feet. However he realized that it was a mistake to bug such a low altitude and starting the descent that early. I made the decision that I wanted to see the Captain fly the second leg back to ZZZ1; and setting up for another visual approach.The flight back to ZZZ1 was satisfactory; the crew demonstrated proficiency in all observed tasks and standards were met.The crew could have executed a missed approach by using go-around procedures. However they used the flight controls and thrust as necessary to correct the airplane attitude and flight path according to the message presented; to provide terrain clearance; and maintained it until the warning ceased.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.