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CFI and student descending towarwd oak from the east may have flown too low over a congested area as they tried to remain below clouds. They also may have flown too close to clouds.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 155300 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199008 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : oak |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 260 flight time total : 2120 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 155300 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
In approaching oak in VFR conditions had to descend to avoid clouds and quite possibly we were within 1000' AGL of the ground with some houses nearby. We were approaching the airport from the east and were over the oakland hills. At times we might have also been within the cloud clrncs required for VFR flight. Should have filed or picked up an IFR clearance to avoid the possible low flying over the houses.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CFI AND STUDENT DESCENDING TOWARWD OAK FROM THE EAST MAY HAVE FLOWN TOO LOW OVER A CONGESTED AREA AS THEY TRIED TO REMAIN BELOW CLOUDS. THEY ALSO MAY HAVE FLOWN TOO CLOSE TO CLOUDS.
Narrative: IN APCHING OAK IN VFR CONDITIONS HAD TO DSND TO AVOID CLOUDS AND QUITE POSSIBLY WE WERE WITHIN 1000' AGL OF THE GND WITH SOME HOUSES NEARBY. WE WERE APCHING THE ARPT FROM THE E AND WERE OVER THE OAKLAND HILLS. AT TIMES WE MIGHT HAVE ALSO BEEN WITHIN THE CLOUD CLRNCS REQUIRED FOR VFR FLT. SHOULD HAVE FILED OR PICKED UP AN IFR CLRNC TO AVOID THE POSSIBLE LOW FLYING OVER THE HOUSES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.