Medium large transport flight crew cleared to runway 4 at bos overran hold point.

Attributes
ACN	157148
Time
Date	199009
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : bos
State Reference	MA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	ground : holding ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 280 flight time total : 12900
ASRS Report	157148
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation
Situations
Airport	other physical facility

Narrative:

Refer to bos airport plate titled 'hold point' (inset) depicting runways and various 'hold lines' for runways. One must assume that the 'hold lines' are the hold points the controller is referring to since the words 'hold point' are only mentioned in the title. Our clearance was 'taxi 4R, hold short of the hold point.' we taxied toward runway 4R planning to hold short of the runway 4R hold line. After passing the runway 9-4l hold line were told we had missed our hold point. Note: active takeoff runway was 9 and we had requested runway 4R due to weight. I believe since all other aircraft were going to runway 9 the controller simply forgot we were part of the group. Perhaps calling the runway 9-4l hold line a hold point on the diagram instead of a hold line would be enough to differentiate from the runway 4R hold line.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: MLG FLC CLEARED TO RWY 4 AT BOS OVERRAN HOLD POINT.

Narrative: REFER TO BOS ARPT PLATE TITLED 'HOLD POINT' (INSET) DEPICTING RWYS AND VARIOUS 'HOLD LINES' FOR RWYS. ONE MUST ASSUME THAT THE 'HOLD LINES' ARE THE HOLD POINTS THE CTLR IS REFERRING TO SINCE THE WORDS 'HOLD POINT' ARE ONLY MENTIONED IN THE TITLE. OUR CLRNC WAS 'TAXI 4R, HOLD SHORT OF THE HOLD POINT.' WE TAXIED TOWARD RWY 4R PLANNING TO HOLD SHORT OF THE RWY 4R HOLD LINE. AFTER PASSING THE RWY 9-4L HOLD LINE WERE TOLD WE HAD MISSED OUR HOLD POINT. NOTE: ACTIVE TKOF RWY WAS 9 AND WE HAD REQUESTED RWY 4R DUE TO WEIGHT. I BELIEVE SINCE ALL OTHER ACFT WERE GOING TO RWY 9 THE CTLR SIMPLY FORGOT WE WERE PART OF THE GROUP. PERHAPS CALLING THE RWY 9-4L HOLD LINE A HOLD POINT ON THE DIAGRAM INSTEAD OF A HOLD LINE WOULD BE ENOUGH TO DIFFERENTIATE FROM THE RWY 4R HOLD LINE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.