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Attributes | |
ACN | 1581051 |
Time | |
Date | 201807 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZHU.ARTCC |
State Reference | TX |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | S-76/S-76 Mark II |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Non Radar 4 Air Traffic Control Radar 5 Flight Crew Last 90 Days 225 Flight Crew Total 18000 Flight Crew Type 5000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural FAR Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
Normal gulf of mexico IFR operation. There [are] one or two controllers at the helicopter sector who do not understand the procedures on issuing an IFR clearance to an aircraft in uncontrolled airspace. I know that at least one controller will deliberately withhold a clearance because the aircraft cannot climb VFR. I have been a controller and I can listen and hear that the reasons given for not issuing a clearance were false. This particular controller will ask if the aircraft can climb VFR. If the answer is negative he will not issue a clearance. This controller and maybe others on that sector need training on where their responsibility ends and begins. Their responsibility does not include the aircraft's flight conditions. Deliberately withholding a clearance in adverse weather is not acceptable for conditions of flight and it can cause problems for the aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: S76 pilot reported ATC had improperly withheld issuing IFR clearances.
Narrative: Normal Gulf of Mexico IFR operation. There [are] one or two controllers at the helicopter sector who do not understand the procedures on issuing an IFR clearance to an aircraft in uncontrolled airspace. I know that at least one controller will deliberately withhold a clearance because the aircraft cannot climb VFR. I have been a controller and I can listen and hear that the reasons given for not issuing a clearance were false. This particular controller will ask if the aircraft can climb VFR. If the answer is negative he will not issue a clearance. This controller and maybe others on that sector need training on where their responsibility ends and begins. Their responsibility does not include the aircraft's flight conditions. Deliberately withholding a clearance in adverse weather is not acceptable for conditions of flight and it can cause problems for the aircraft.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.