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Attributes | |
ACN | 1582765 |
Time | |
Date | 201810 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 170/175 ER/LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Pneumatic System |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe |
Narrative:
My first officer (first officer) and I were flying aircraft X which had bleed number 2 deferred and on climb out we had bleed 1 fail. This happened at about FL230. As I saw the message and called out the problem I realized that we were no longer being pressurized. Knowing that I suggested we both don our masks stop our climb and ask ATC for a lower altitude. We donned our masks and divided the duties of myself running the QRH and the first officer having the radios and airplane. He asked ATC for a lower altitude and [notified them of the situation] while I ran the QRH for the bleed one fail. ATC gave us a heading and soon after cleared us for an immediate descent to 10;000 feet. I ran the QRH for bleed 1 fail and the reset worked. We were already on our way down to 10;000. I knew with the APU we could get pressurization at 15;000 if the bleed failed again but with the terrain in between us and [our destination] we decided that the best course of action was to return to ZZZ. We requested that from ATC and started to go there. We wore our masks down to 10;000 feet as the most conservative option should the bleed fail again. I notified the flight attendants and passengers of our situation and that we would be returning to ZZZ. I also messaged dispatch through ACARS. I resumed control of the radios and my first officer flew us to ZZZ without further incident. The highest I saw the cabin altitude get was 8500 and the passenger oxygen masks did not come down.I would say that maybe with one bleed inoperative that we could limit ourselves to a lower altitude than FL310. I feel that if we had been at 31;000 the cabin altitude might have gotten to a point of the passenger oxygen masks coming down depending on how quickly a descent can be made of course. I have heard of this not being the only time both bleeds have failed here so I would also say putting a more restrictive timeline on how quickly the bleed is fixed could also work.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ERJ-175 Captain reported aircraft #1 bleed failed on climb while #2 bleed was deferred resulted in a descent and return to the departure airport.
Narrative: My FO (First Officer) and I were flying Aircraft X which had Bleed number 2 deferred and on climb out we had Bleed 1 fail. This happened at about FL230. As I saw the message and called out the problem I realized that we were no longer being pressurized. Knowing that I suggested we both don our masks stop our climb and ask ATC for a lower altitude. We donned our masks and divided the duties of myself running the QRH and the FO having the radios and airplane. He asked ATC for a lower altitude and [notified them of the situation] while I ran the QRH for the Bleed one fail. ATC gave us a heading and soon after cleared us for an immediate descent to 10;000 feet. I ran the QRH for Bleed 1 fail and the reset worked. We were already on our way down to 10;000. I knew with the APU we could get pressurization at 15;000 if the bleed failed again but with the terrain in between us and [our destination] we decided that the best course of action was to return to ZZZ. We requested that from ATC and started to go there. We wore our masks down to 10;000 feet as the most conservative option should the bleed fail again. I notified the flight attendants and passengers of our situation and that we would be returning to ZZZ. I also messaged Dispatch through ACARS. I resumed control of the radios and my FO flew us to ZZZ without further incident. The highest I saw the cabin altitude get was 8500 and the passenger oxygen masks did not come down.I would say that maybe with one bleed inoperative that we could limit ourselves to a lower altitude than FL310. I feel that if we had been at 31;000 the cabin altitude might have gotten to a point of the passenger oxygen masks coming down depending on how quickly a descent can be made of course. I have heard of this not being the only time both bleeds have failed here so I would also say putting a more restrictive timeline on how quickly the bleed is fixed could also work.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.