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Commuter flight cleared by center to descend pilot discretion. Then given altitude restriction at intersecting. At handoff, approach controller not aware of cleared altitude.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 158341 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199009 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mci |
| State Reference | MO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc tracon : mci |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 3400 flight time type : 50 |
| ASRS Report | 158341 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure other |
Narrative:
We asked ZKC for lower and they advised me pilot's discretion to 7000'. Then within 5 seconds they said to cross boiler intersection at 8000'. We crossed at 8000' and at that time they told me to contact mci. We called mci approach and advised we were with them at 8000' descending to 70000'. He said roger. At 7500' he asked what our altitude was. We advised out of 7500 for 7000'. When we landed at mci ground told us to call approach. We called and they told me that we should have been at 8000'. I told them what ZKC told me. He told me to call back later. I did--I called back and he said to be careful but nothing was going to happen. I am not sure if there was a misunderstanding in communication or what. We had been working about 60-70 hours a week.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER FLT CLEARED BY CENTER TO DESCEND PLT DISCRETION. THEN GIVEN ALT RESTRICTION AT INTERSECTING. AT HANDOFF, APCH CTLR NOT AWARE OF CLEARED ALT.
Narrative: WE ASKED ZKC FOR LOWER AND THEY ADVISED ME PLT'S DISCRETION TO 7000'. THEN WITHIN 5 SECS THEY SAID TO CROSS BOILER INTXN AT 8000'. WE CROSSED AT 8000' AND AT THAT TIME THEY TOLD ME TO CONTACT MCI. WE CALLED MCI APCH AND ADVISED WE WERE WITH THEM AT 8000' DSNDING TO 70000'. HE SAID ROGER. AT 7500' HE ASKED WHAT OUR ALT WAS. WE ADVISED OUT OF 7500 FOR 7000'. WHEN WE LANDED AT MCI GND TOLD US TO CALL APCH. WE CALLED AND THEY TOLD ME THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT 8000'. I TOLD THEM WHAT ZKC TOLD ME. HE TOLD ME TO CALL BACK LATER. I DID--I CALLED BACK AND HE SAID TO BE CAREFUL BUT NOTHING WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. I AM NOT SURE IF THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING IN COM OR WHAT. WE HAD BEEN WORKING ABOUT 60-70 HRS A WK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.