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Air carrier captain reported a near midair collision with a drone on a four mile final to jfk.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1588041 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201810 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | JFK.Airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | UAV - Unpiloted Aerial Vehicle |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Conflict NMAC |
| Miss Distance | Vertical 200 |
Narrative:
On approach in jfk for ILS 22R (may have been 22L); just past the outer marker (probably mattr) I saw something small that didn't appear to be moving up ahead in the windscreen. We were descending on the glideslope. Once I determined the object appeared mostly stationary; while staying at the same altitude; I didn't feel that a course change or attitude change was necessary. I also only had several seconds to identify the object; determine its size; and even consider evasive action. The object appeared to be a small; quad-copter drone. It was grey in color with the rectangular body that seems ubiquitous to many designs. It appeared to fly 100 to 200 feet above our altitude of 1600 feet MSL. We were on about a 4-mile final. I don't think the first officer (pilot monitoring) ever saw it. We immediately reported it to ATC. We gave jfk ground a more exact description than tower received. If I had been scanning the flight instruments rather than looking outside; then I may have never seen the drone. There was nothing we could have done differently. Perhaps drone sightings and suggested procedures could be mentioned in one of the manuals.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air Carrier Captain reported a NMAC with a Drone on a four mile final to JFK.
Narrative: On approach in JFK for ILS 22R (may have been 22L); just past the Outer Marker (probably MATTR) I saw something small that didn't appear to be moving up ahead in the windscreen. We were descending on the glideslope. Once I determined the object appeared mostly stationary; while staying at the same altitude; I didn't feel that a course change or attitude change was necessary. I also only had several seconds to identify the object; determine its size; and even consider evasive action. The object appeared to be a small; quad-copter drone. It was grey in color with the rectangular body that seems ubiquitous to many designs. It appeared to fly 100 to 200 feet above our altitude of 1600 feet MSL. We were on about a 4-mile final. I don't think the First Officer (Pilot Monitoring) ever saw it. We immediately reported it to ATC. We gave JFK Ground a more exact description than Tower received. If I had been scanning the flight instruments rather than looking outside; then I may have never seen the drone. There was nothing we could have done differently. Perhaps drone sightings and suggested procedures could be mentioned in one of the manuals.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.