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Attributes | |
ACN | 1591218 |
Time | |
Date | 201811 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | DAY.Airport |
State Reference | OH |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 120 Flight Crew Total 6000 Flight Crew Type 160 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
Climbing out of day on the dayton 6 SID; as we passed 10;000; the center controller said just maintain the SID speed through 14;000 then resume normal speed. To this the captain and I looked at each and said 'what SID speed?!' our SID charts were up (our company uses jeppesen on ipads) and displayed so we made quick work of re-scrutinizing the chart and saw that towards the bottom of the chart in the plan view a small; fairly nondescript text box saying 'aircraft filed over cvg VOR maintain 250KT until advised by ATC.' we had barely started to accelerate and ATC never said a word; so I am pretty sure there was no violation; nor loss of separation. My reason for writing is this; we are one month away from it being 2019; over one hundred years and counting of aviation and still our charts are terrible!! Standardization is severely lacking. Our company advises us to review the four corners of a chart so as not to miss out on any notes. Well this note is not really in one of the four corners; nor is it bolded or put in red font like other speed restrictions are. Even the initial altitude (5;000) is not very conspicuous; which it should be---take for example the sids in atl. This is beyond ridiculous. Every pilot and/or crew is presented with a number of threats when sitting on the ground preparing for a flight; distracting you; throwing you off your normal patterns; besides the fact that we traverse hundreds of airports each with their own multitude of nuances every year. Briefing departure should not be a 'where's waldo' challenge.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air carrier First Officer reported not recognizing a charted speed restriction on departure out of DAY.
Narrative: Climbing out of DAY on the Dayton 6 SID; as we passed 10;000; the Center controller said just maintain the SID speed through 14;000 then resume normal speed. To this the Captain and I looked at each and said 'what SID speed?!' Our SID charts were up (our company uses Jeppesen on iPads) and displayed so we made quick work of re-scrutinizing the chart and saw that towards the bottom of the chart in the plan view a small; fairly nondescript text box saying 'Aircraft filed over CVG VOR MAINTAIN 250KT until advised by ATC.' We had barely started to accelerate and ATC never said a word; so I am pretty sure there was no violation; nor loss of separation. My reason for writing is this; we are one month away from it being 2019; over one hundred years and counting of aviation and still our charts are terrible!! Standardization is severely lacking. Our company advises us to review the four corners of a chart so as not to miss out on any notes. Well this note is not really in one of the four corners; nor is it bolded or put in red font like other speed restrictions are. Even the initial altitude (5;000) is not very conspicuous; which it should be---take for example the SIDs in ATL. This is beyond ridiculous. Every pilot and/or crew is presented with a number of threats when sitting on the ground preparing for a flight; distracting you; throwing you off your normal patterns; besides the fact that we traverse hundreds of airports each with their own multitude of nuances every year. Briefing departure should not be a 'Where's Waldo' challenge.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.