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Controller complains about new procedure requiring aircraft to cancel IFR for a circling approach. Controller lists 2 instances where control zone went IFR while aircraft were circling.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 159227 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199010 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : pwk |
| State Reference | IL |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord tower : pwk artcc : zny |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
| Route In Use | approach : circling |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : circling |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Experience | controller non radar : 2 |
| ASRS Report | 159227 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : vfr in imc inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Light transport jet flies ILS to circle VFR to runway 34. Procedures require him to cancel IFR. Small transport jet flies ILS to circle VFR to runway 34. Ceiling was estimated 1000' broken as both aircraft cancelled to circle. New WX came out and the control zone was IFR. We had 2 jets circling VFR that were in IFR conditions with no missed approach procedures. This procedure was instituted to protect for IFR sep for ord, after 20 yrs of not requiring aircraft to cancel IFR. This procedure was developed with no input from private pilots at pwk airport or by controllers checked out at fpl at pwk tower. Pwk serves corp jets and single engine aircraft and it is very dangerous when mixing both aircraft to the same runway. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter stated that before a circling approach is issued to runway 34 approach control asks the pilot if he can cancel IFR when breaking out--if not possible holding may be required. The new procedure was implemented because too many aircraft penetrated ord airspace and conflicted with ord departures. Reporter believes pilot is intimidated by the possibility of holding. Also states that facility was not asked for their input or no formal training given. Information was put in facility binder, but no briefings given.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CTLR COMPLAINS ABOUT NEW PROC REQUIRING ACFT TO CANCEL IFR FOR A CIRCLING APCH. CTLR LISTS 2 INSTANCES WHERE CTL ZONE WENT IFR WHILE ACFT WERE CIRCLING.
Narrative: LTT JET FLIES ILS TO CIRCLE VFR TO RWY 34. PROCS REQUIRE HIM TO CANCEL IFR. SMT JET FLIES ILS TO CIRCLE VFR TO RWY 34. CEILING WAS ESTIMATED 1000' BROKEN AS BOTH ACFT CANCELLED TO CIRCLE. NEW WX CAME OUT AND THE CTL ZONE WAS IFR. WE HAD 2 JETS CIRCLING VFR THAT WERE IN IFR CONDITIONS WITH NO MISSED APCH PROCS. THIS PROC WAS INSTITUTED TO PROTECT FOR IFR SEP FOR ORD, AFTER 20 YRS OF NOT REQUIRING ACFT TO CANCEL IFR. THIS PROC WAS DEVELOPED WITH NO INPUT FROM PVT PLTS AT PWK ARPT OR BY CTLRS CHKED OUT AT FPL AT PWK TWR. PWK SERVES CORP JETS AND SINGLE ENG ACFT AND IT IS VERY DANGEROUS WHEN MIXING BOTH ACFT TO THE SAME RWY. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR STATED THAT BEFORE A CIRCLING APCH IS ISSUED TO RWY 34 APCH CTL ASKS THE PLT IF HE CAN CANCEL IFR WHEN BREAKING OUT--IF NOT POSSIBLE HOLDING MAY BE REQUIRED. THE NEW PROC WAS IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE TOO MANY ACFT PENETRATED ORD AIRSPACE AND CONFLICTED WITH ORD DEPS. RPTR BELIEVES PLT IS INTIMIDATED BY THE POSSIBILITY OF HOLDING. ALSO STATES THAT FAC WAS NOT ASKED FOR THEIR INPUT OR NO FORMAL TRNING GIVEN. INFO WAS PUT IN FAC BINDER, BUT NO BRIEFINGS GIVEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.