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Attributes | |
ACN | 1599965 |
Time | |
Date | 201812 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | SEE.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Light Sport Aircraft |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Parked |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Flight Phase | Taxi |
Person 1 | |
Function | Instructor Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Flight Engineer Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 150 Flight Crew Total 21000 Flight Crew Type 4600 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Ground Conflict Less Severe Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Ground Event / Encounter Other / Unknown Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
Cleared runway 27R at see on taxiway B. Large helicopter was hovering 100' north of taxiway C; and 100' west of the fuel pit (our destination).I informed ground control that I could not proceed while the helicopter was airborne. After some discussion; [controller] said ok. The helicopter landed after maybe two minutes; and we proceeded. When we arrived at the fuel pump and shut down; the helicopter again lifted off and began a hover maneuver; resulting in a disconcerting amount of rocking and rolling in [our aircraft].I informed ground that we were in a precarious position; and [controller] said the helicopter was in a non-movement area; not subject to any control.this sort of thing happens less frequently now; and at my home airport most helicopters coordinate with the tower before liftoff. But it is still dangerous for very small fixed wing aircraft. A liftoff at a tower controlled airport is; after all; a flight in class delta airspace.the real solution here is to make it a requirement that all aircraft aloft in class D airspace be in two way radio contact with the controlling ATC facility. We could clarify 14 crash fire rescue equipment section 91.125(d) and 91.129(i) so it applies to helicopters? If it already applies to helicopters; we could include it in recurrent training for controllers and helicopter pilots.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Light sport aircraft pilot reported concern that uncoordinated helicopter traffic could affect light weight aircraft operations.
Narrative: Cleared runway 27R at SEE on taxiway B. Large helicopter was hovering 100' north of taxiway C; and 100' west of the fuel pit (our destination).I informed ground control that I could not proceed while the helicopter was airborne. After some discussion; [Controller] said ok. The helicopter landed after maybe two minutes; and we proceeded. When we arrived at the fuel pump and shut down; the helicopter again lifted off and began a hover maneuver; resulting in a disconcerting amount of rocking and rolling in [our aircraft].I informed ground that we were in a precarious position; and [Controller] said the helicopter was in a non-movement area; not subject to any control.This sort of thing happens less frequently now; and at my home airport most helicopters coordinate with the tower before liftoff. But it is still dangerous for very small fixed wing aircraft. A liftoff at a tower controlled airport is; after all; a flight in class Delta airspace.The real solution here is to make it a requirement that all aircraft aloft in class D airspace be in two way radio contact with the controlling ATC facility. We could clarify 14 CFR section 91.125(d) and 91.129(i) so it applies to helicopters? If it already applies to helicopters; we could include it in recurrent training for controllers and helicopter pilots.
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