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Attributes | |
ACN | 160527 |
Time | |
Date | 199010 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pit |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : pit tower : dca |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 2800 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 160527 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
At about XX15 local time, pit flight was boarded and loaded. We taxied to runway 28C and upon clearance from tower took off. It was the first officer's leg. At V1 speed we noticed the stall horn and for a moment the stick shaker. We decided to continue the takeoff due to our speed and remaining runway length. After discussing the problem with my first officer, I decided to fly the aircraft and have him communicate with ATC, check our landing weight and communicate with the passenger. For reasons of safety, during the approach briefing, we decided to increase our vref speeds. We landed west/O incident and taxied back to the gate. I had the passenger deplane. The first officer was instructed to carefully recompute the weight and balance problem and the cg. I went in to call maintenance control. In my conversation with maintenance control I told them of my problem, that I thought it was probably the stall vane and that I was going to shift the weight around and add ballast for good measure. Maintenance control did not seem to be too concerned, indicated that would be fine, and had no further instructions for me. We reboarded our passenger and departed the second time. At V1 again we heard the stall horn. Our speed at the time was well in excess of any speed we considered unsafe. We elected to continue the flight to washington dulles airport. We landed west/O incident. I had maintenance meet me at the aircraft. After discussing the problem with them it was decided to write the problem up and they would work on it. In the crew room a mechanic came up to me and accused me of flying in an unsafe manner. I went to the phone and called fresno maintenance. During my conversation with them I learned the people who I spoke to in pit were in fact not maintenance people, but 'someone just standing around there,' and that the maintenance people were 'investigating.' maintenance control said there was a lot of confusion about this incident, but now they had heard what really happened, there was not a real problem. As for the log book entries, I failed to make the proper entries in the appropriate lines. I would also like to address the fact I and my first officer were low time, and in my opinion we should have never been paired together.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LTT RETURNS AND LANDS DUE TO AN APPARENT FALSE STALL WARNING HORN AND STICK SHAKER.
Narrative: AT ABOUT XX15 LCL TIME, PIT FLT WAS BOARDED AND LOADED. WE TAXIED TO RWY 28C AND UPON CLRNC FROM TWR TOOK OFF. IT WAS THE F/O'S LEG. AT V1 SPD WE NOTICED THE STALL HORN AND FOR A MOMENT THE STICK SHAKER. WE DECIDED TO CONTINUE THE TKOF DUE TO OUR SPD AND REMAINING RWY LENGTH. AFTER DISCUSSING THE PROB WITH MY F/O, I DECIDED TO FLY THE ACFT AND HAVE HIM COMMUNICATE WITH ATC, CHK OUR LNDG WT AND COMMUNICATE WITH THE PAX. FOR REASONS OF SAFETY, DURING THE APCH BRIEFING, WE DECIDED TO INCREASE OUR VREF SPDS. WE LANDED W/O INCIDENT AND TAXIED BACK TO THE GATE. I HAD THE PAX DEPLANE. THE F/O WAS INSTRUCTED TO CAREFULLY RECOMPUTE THE WT AND BAL PROB AND THE CG. I WENT IN TO CALL MAINT CTL. IN MY CONVERSATION WITH MAINT CTL I TOLD THEM OF MY PROB, THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS PROBABLY THE STALL VANE AND THAT I WAS GOING TO SHIFT THE WT AROUND AND ADD BALLAST FOR GOOD MEASURE. MAINT CTL DID NOT SEEM TO BE TOO CONCERNED, INDICATED THAT WOULD BE FINE, AND HAD NO FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS FOR ME. WE REBOARDED OUR PAX AND DEPARTED THE SECOND TIME. AT V1 AGAIN WE HEARD THE STALL HORN. OUR SPD AT THE TIME WAS WELL IN EXCESS OF ANY SPD WE CONSIDERED UNSAFE. WE ELECTED TO CONTINUE THE FLT TO WASHINGTON DULLES ARPT. WE LANDED W/O INCIDENT. I HAD MAINT MEET ME AT THE ACFT. AFTER DISCUSSING THE PROB WITH THEM IT WAS DECIDED TO WRITE THE PROB UP AND THEY WOULD WORK ON IT. IN THE CREW ROOM A MECH CAME UP TO ME AND ACCUSED ME OF FLYING IN AN UNSAFE MANNER. I WENT TO THE PHONE AND CALLED FRESNO MAINT. DURING MY CONVERSATION WITH THEM I LEARNED THE PEOPLE WHO I SPOKE TO IN PIT WERE IN FACT NOT MAINT PEOPLE, BUT 'SOMEONE JUST STANDING AROUND THERE,' AND THAT THE MAINT PEOPLE WERE 'INVESTIGATING.' MAINT CTL SAID THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT THIS INCIDENT, BUT NOW THEY HAD HEARD WHAT REALLY HAPPENED, THERE WAS NOT A REAL PROB. AS FOR THE LOG BOOK ENTRIES, I FAILED TO MAKE THE PROPER ENTRIES IN THE APPROPRIATE LINES. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS THE FACT I AND MY F/O WERE LOW TIME, AND IN MY OPINION WE SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN PAIRED TOGETHER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.