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Attributes | |
ACN | 1616011 |
Time | |
Date | 201902 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.ARTCC |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER/LR (CRJ200) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Navigational Equipment and Processing |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter Other / Unknown |
Narrative:
While departing ZZZ with no long range navigation operational; the captain inadvertently switched the communication 1 frequency off of an active center frequency to one that was previously used. According to ZZZ center; they were trying to call us numerous times on the frequency that was switched off; likely for less than a minute. They finally reached us on the previous frequency and we immediately switched to the correct frequency. The aircraft was being flown via VOR inputs as the primary navigation system; and the comm frequency was accidentally switched off as the captain switched VOR frequencies while attempting to acquire the next VOR station. Firstly; aircraft that are dispatched into the country's busiest airspace should have the navigation equipment operational that ATC expects and is used to using. Every time there is a non-RNAV aircraft; ATC still clears the crew to fly to GPS points or on RNAV arrivals or departure procedures; regardless of what is filed. Aircrew of course correct the controllers; but these non-RNAV aircraft generally result in confusion from one ATC controller to the next. Additionally; if an aircraft is to be dispatched using vors as a primary means of navigation; all of the facilities on the route and the major ones near that route that help fix reporting points should be investigated by dispatch for closures or issues. We were repeatedly cleared to ZZZ VOR and it was; after we could not identify the fix; finally determined to be inoperative. We did not see this on the release.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ-200 flight crew reported a temporary loss of communication while attempting to tune the next VOR on non-RNAV required route.
Narrative: While departing ZZZ with no long range navigation operational; the captain inadvertently switched the COM 1 frequency off of an active center frequency to one that was previously used. According to ZZZ Center; they were trying to call us numerous times on the frequency that was switched off; likely for less than a minute. They finally reached us on the previous frequency and we immediately switched to the correct frequency. The aircraft was being flown via VOR inputs as the primary navigation system; and the comm frequency was accidentally switched off as the captain switched VOR frequencies while attempting to acquire the next VOR station. Firstly; aircraft that are dispatched into the country's busiest airspace should have the navigation equipment operational that ATC expects and is used to using. Every time there is a non-RNAV aircraft; ATC still clears the crew to fly to GPS points or on RNAV arrivals or departure procedures; regardless of what is filed. Aircrew of course correct the controllers; but these non-RNAV aircraft generally result in confusion from one ATC controller to the next. Additionally; if an aircraft is to be dispatched using VORs as a primary means of navigation; all of the facilities on the route and the major ones near that route that help fix reporting points should be investigated by dispatch for closures or issues. We were repeatedly cleared to ZZZ VOR and it was; after we could not identify the fix; finally determined to be inoperative. We did not see this on the release.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.