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Air carrier first officer reported repeated problems in obtaining clearance from approach control on the ground when tower is closed at pae airport.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1622120 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201902 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | PAE.Airport |
| State Reference | WA |
| Environment | |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 30 Flight Crew Type 1500 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
The last two paine field turns that I've picked up; I've run into the issue of not being able to raise approach for our clearance and void times for tower closed departures. The frequency listed is 128.5. The first time we were able to get the FSS frequency and have them relay to seattle approach to come up on frequency. The second time this happened FSS gave me seattle approach's phone number to chat directly with them. After making seattle approach aware (via both methods) that we were trying to reach them on 128.5; we immediately had good communication with them. Both times FSS said that approach sometimes doesn't monitor that frequency in the evening. If that's the case; I'm not sure why it's listed as the frequency on all the approach plates; or why there isn't an after hours frequency on there. My primary reason to file this report was to see if we could get the phone number for approach listed in the pae airport page; with all the other numbers.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air carrier First Officer reported repeated problems in obtaining clearance from Approach Control on the ground when Tower is closed at PAE airport.
Narrative: The last two Paine Field turns that I've picked up; I've run into the issue of not being able to raise Approach for our clearance and void times for Tower closed departures. The frequency listed is 128.5. The first time we were able to get the FSS frequency and have them relay to Seattle Approach to come up on frequency. The second time this happened FSS gave me Seattle Approach's phone number to chat directly with them. After making Seattle Approach aware (via both methods) that we were trying to reach them on 128.5; we immediately had good communication with them. Both times FSS said that Approach sometimes doesn't monitor that frequency in the evening. If that's the case; I'm not sure why it's listed as the frequency on all the approach plates; or why there isn't an after hours frequency on there. My primary reason to file this report was to see if we could get the phone number for approach listed in the PAE airport page; with all the other numbers.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.