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Attributes | |
ACN | 163720 |
Time | |
Date | 199011 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sna |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sna |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : sna |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5800 flight time type : 2340 |
ASRS Report | 164720 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 164150 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While level at 4000', the controller issued traffic and directed a left turn from 220 degree to 180 degree. Simultaneous to the controllers instructions the TCAS ii issued traffic alert and very shortly after commanded 'climb'. The captain disconnected the autoplt which was being used for cruise, and initiated a 1000-1200 FPM climb as directed by TCAS ii. We got to an altitude of 4800' before coming immediately back down to 4000'. Traffic was never seen. Controllers frequency was very busy, and it took about 30 seconds more before I (first officer) could inform him of our altitude excursion. His comment was, 'yeah, that's the traffic I turned you for.' observation. TCAS ii was very loud, and actually cut out some of the controllers initial instructions. If instructions from ATC had been issued during the 'climb-climb-climb' command, they would not have been heard.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG FLT CREW RESPONDS TO TCAS II ALERT. ALT DEVIATION.
Narrative: WHILE LEVEL AT 4000', THE CTLR ISSUED TFC AND DIRECTED A L TURN FROM 220 DEG TO 180 DEG. SIMULTANEOUS TO THE CTLRS INSTRUCTIONS THE TCAS II ISSUED TFC ALERT AND VERY SHORTLY AFTER COMMANDED 'CLB'. THE CAPT DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT WHICH WAS BEING USED FOR CRUISE, AND INITIATED A 1000-1200 FPM CLB AS DIRECTED BY TCAS II. WE GOT TO AN ALT OF 4800' BEFORE COMING IMMEDIATELY BACK DOWN TO 4000'. TFC WAS NEVER SEEN. CTLRS FREQ WAS VERY BUSY, AND IT TOOK ABOUT 30 SECS MORE BEFORE I (F/O) COULD INFORM HIM OF OUR ALT EXCURSION. HIS COMMENT WAS, 'YEAH, THAT'S THE TFC I TURNED YOU FOR.' OBSERVATION. TCAS II WAS VERY LOUD, AND ACTUALLY CUT OUT SOME OF THE CTLRS INITIAL INSTRUCTIONS. IF INSTRUCTIONS FROM ATC HAD BEEN ISSUED DURING THE 'CLB-CLB-CLB' COMMAND, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN HEARD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.