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Attributes | |
ACN | 164844 |
Time | |
Date | 199012 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sea |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | enroute airway : sea |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 164844 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Upon arrival at seattle I proceeded to operations to obtain a new release for the leg to portland. Upon returning to the aircraft I asked my first officer what the clearance was. He save me his version, but failed to mention any speed restrictions. He was to fly the leg and seemed insulted that I would even ask him the question. Out of 1000' he accelerated to 300 KTS. Out of 13000' the controller advised us to resume normal speed. Where upon I asked the first officer if we had a speed restriction. He said yes, but offered no excuse, much less an apology. Then just prior to approach he was going to descend below his assigned altitude and got angry and surely again when I called it to his attention. This first officer had 1 1/2 yrs with the airline. He thinks he knows it all. We are seeing more and more of this. I believe the company is afraid to point out to new people that they have someone to answer to, for fear of infringing on civil rights. We line capts need some help in this area. Which I believe would greatly reduce altitude busts, excursions, etc. It is almost, if not impossible, to have a happy, willing crew if you have just one (cockpit or cabin) who needs help but won't accept it it creates tension, mistakes, etc and I don't need that in the cockpit. I flew both legs of the return trip to avoid any more errors with a first officer who was of no help to me what so ever.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EXCEED SPEED RESTRICTION. DISCORD IN THE COCKPIT.
Narrative: UPON ARR AT SEATTLE I PROCEEDED TO OPS TO OBTAIN A NEW RELEASE FOR THE LEG TO PORTLAND. UPON RETURNING TO THE ACFT I ASKED MY F/O WHAT THE CLRNC WAS. HE SAVE ME HIS VERSION, BUT FAILED TO MENTION ANY SPD RESTRICTIONS. HE WAS TO FLY THE LEG AND SEEMED INSULTED THAT I WOULD EVEN ASK HIM THE QUESTION. OUT OF 1000' HE ACCELERATED TO 300 KTS. OUT OF 13000' THE CTLR ADVISED US TO RESUME NORMAL SPD. WHERE UPON I ASKED THE F/O IF WE HAD A SPD RESTRICTION. HE SAID YES, BUT OFFERED NO EXCUSE, MUCH LESS AN APOLOGY. THEN JUST PRIOR TO APCH HE WAS GOING TO DSND BELOW HIS ASSIGNED ALT AND GOT ANGRY AND SURELY AGAIN WHEN I CALLED IT TO HIS ATTN. THIS F/O HAD 1 1/2 YRS WITH THE AIRLINE. HE THINKS HE KNOWS IT ALL. WE ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE OF THIS. I BELIEVE THE COMPANY IS AFRAID TO POINT OUT TO NEW PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE SOMEONE TO ANSWER TO, FOR FEAR OF INFRINGING ON CIVIL RIGHTS. WE LINE CAPTS NEED SOME HELP IN THIS AREA. WHICH I BELIEVE WOULD GREATLY REDUCE ALT BUSTS, EXCURSIONS, ETC. IT IS ALMOST, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE, TO HAVE A HAPPY, WILLING CREW IF YOU HAVE JUST ONE (COCKPIT OR CABIN) WHO NEEDS HELP BUT WON'T ACCEPT IT IT CREATES TENSION, MISTAKES, ETC AND I DON'T NEED THAT IN THE COCKPIT. I FLEW BOTH LEGS OF THE RETURN TRIP TO AVOID ANY MORE ERRORS WITH A F/O WHO WAS OF NO HELP TO ME WHAT SO EVER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.