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Attributes | |
ACN | 1659310 |
Time | |
Date | 201906 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | DEN.Tower |
State Reference | CO |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Landing |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 198 Flight Crew Total 2853 Flight Crew Type 2586 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Unstabilized Approach Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
We were flying into den 16R. ATC reported wind changes of 30 knots. The aircraft in front of us did not report any loss/gain. We were planning flaps 30 with plus 15. It put our ref at 145 and target at 160. We were configured and doing fine. The captain was flying; and he kept having the speed creep up to max flaps speed of 180 (though we never exceeded it). I called him twice to check speed. He told me that he was keeping it fast because he was waiting for a drop of airspeed and he had 12000 feet of runway. I told him to check speed again. We were hugging the barber pole for flaps 30 speed. Which is plus 15 higher than our target. Again; he told me he was keeping it fast waiting for the drop of speed. I debated telling him to go around; and I should have. As we landed; I thought about being in den and higher ground speed and issues with taking off exceeding tire speed. I would have never thought it was an issue on landing. As we touched down; I saw our speed of 205 ground speed. Our limitation is 195 tire speed. Rest of landing/taxi in was fine. We reported to maintenance and they changed all 6 tires. I spoke with the captain on our next leg some more about it; and I mentioned that I told him to check speed twice. He told me when he heard that; he did not look at the airspeed. Below 1000 feet; he went heads up and didn't look at the airspeed again. When he heard me say check speed; he thought that he was only 5 knots faster than target; not hugging red line for the flaps. But he did not look in to check his speed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 First Officer reported tire overspeed during landing at high altitude airport.
Narrative: We were flying into DEN 16R. ATC reported wind changes of 30 knots. The aircraft in front of us did not report any loss/gain. We were planning flaps 30 with plus 15. It put our Ref at 145 and Target at 160. We were configured and doing fine. The Captain was flying; and he kept having the speed creep up to max flaps speed of 180 (though we never exceeded it). I called him twice to check speed. He told me that he was keeping it fast because he was waiting for a drop of airspeed and he had 12000 feet of runway. I told him to check speed again. We were hugging the barber pole for flaps 30 speed. Which is plus 15 higher than our target. Again; he told me he was keeping it fast waiting for the drop of speed. I debated telling him to go around; and I should have. As we landed; I thought about being in DEN and higher Ground speed and issues with taking off exceeding tire speed. I would have never thought it was an issue on landing. As we touched down; I saw our speed of 205 ground speed. Our limitation is 195 tire speed. Rest of landing/taxi in was fine. We reported to maintenance and they changed all 6 tires. I spoke with the Captain on our next leg some more about it; and I mentioned that I told him to check speed twice. He told me when he heard that; he did not look at the airspeed. Below 1000 feet; he went heads up and didn't look at the airspeed again. When he heard me say check speed; he thought that he was only 5 knots faster than target; not hugging red line for the flaps. But he did not look in to check his speed.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.