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Attributes | |
ACN | 1663795 |
Time | |
Date | 201907 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | DCA.Airport |
State Reference | DC |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 188.97 Flight Crew Total 19100 Flight Crew Type 5900 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 82 Flight Crew Total 3289 Flight Crew Type 1296 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
While approaching dca the weather began dropping making both advertised approaches to runway 19 and 15 unlikely options. I contacted dispatch via ACARS requesting possible coordination with ATC to land on runway 1 with a small tailwind. I checked landing performance data for both runway 19; 15 and 1. Runway 15 would be very tight at 5;195 feet (5;204 length) using auto brakes 2. Runway 19 left us with more margin; but 25 feet less on minimums. Runway 15 had its PAPI notamed out as well. While dispatch worked with ATC we briefed the TRUPS4 arrival and lda-Z 19 as I felt it was the safest course of action and advertised as available. When we checked on with potomac approach; they advised us to expect RNAV (GPS) 15 and after 'frdmm; fly heading 120. I asked the first officer to request ILS 1; as the latest at ATIS had the WX at 700 broken and below minimums for both 19 and 15. Approach advised a small delay would be in order; but expect ILS 1. I asked the first officer to load ILS 1 in the FMC; while I pulled it up on my jeppesen pro X. When loading the transition for ILS 1 the FMC drops the north side transition (runway 19) and loads the south transition for runway 1. 'Frdmm' is replaced by 'letzz' as the north and south transitions diverge at 'trups.' our last clearance was to fly 120 heading at 'frdmm;' which was no longer on our transition. As we crossed 'trups' I began to fly the transition for runway 1; while the first officer queried ATC if they would like us to fly 120 heading at 'letzz' now instead. ATC advised to just fly the north transition. Initially this terminology was confusing and I asked the first officer to clarify what he meant; 'the north runway 1 transition or the north segment of the transition.' ATC confirmed the runway 1 transition. While it seemed to go as well as could be expected; we were told to 'expect' runway 1; but not actually cleared to fly that transition until clarifying while joining it. We caught it very early and I estimate we were within 1-1.5 miles of the track either way. We continued inbound and made an eventful approach and landing to runway 1. During our flight debrief I became a point of discussion and felt it best to report the situation. The workload was high at the time and ATC was also very busy; so it added to the complexity of communicating. In the end; I believe we were doing what ATC expected; but may not have been cleared for the south (runway 1 transition) when he advised 'expect runway 1'.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 pilots reported a track heading deviation during approach to DCA airport. Communication problems with ATC on which transition to fly were cited as contributing factors.
Narrative: While approaching DCA the weather began dropping making both advertised approaches to Runway 19 and 15 unlikely options. I contacted Dispatch via ACARS requesting possible coordination with ATC to land on Runway 1 with a small tailwind. I checked landing performance data for both Runway 19; 15 and 1. Runway 15 would be very tight at 5;195 feet (5;204 length) using auto brakes 2. Runway 19 left us with more margin; but 25 feet less on minimums. Runway 15 had its PAPI NOTAMed out as well. While Dispatch worked with ATC we briefed the TRUPS4 Arrival and LDA-Z 19 as I felt it was the safest course of action and advertised as available. When we checked on with Potomac Approach; they advised us to expect RNAV (GPS) 15 and after 'FRDMM; fly heading 120. I asked the First Officer to request ILS 1; as the latest at ATIS had the WX at 700 BKN and below minimums for both 19 and 15. Approach advised a small delay would be in order; but expect ILS 1. I asked the First Officer to load ILS 1 in the FMC; while I pulled it up on my Jeppesen Pro X. When loading the transition for ILS 1 the FMC drops the north side transition (Runway 19) and loads the south transition for Runway 1. 'FRDMM' is replaced by 'LETZZ' as the North and South transitions diverge at 'TRUPS.' Our last clearance was to fly 120 heading at 'FRDMM;' which was no longer on our transition. As we crossed 'TRUPS' I began to fly the transition for Runway 1; while the First Officer queried ATC if they would like us to fly 120 heading at 'LETZZ' now instead. ATC advised to just fly the north transition. Initially this terminology was confusing and I asked the First Officer to clarify what he meant; 'The north Runway 1 transition or the North segment of the transition.' ATC confirmed the Runway 1 transition. While it seemed to go as well as could be expected; we were told to 'Expect' Runway 1; but not actually cleared to fly that transition until clarifying while joining it. We caught it very early and I estimate we were within 1-1.5 miles of the track either way. We continued inbound and made an eventful approach and landing to Runway 1. During our flight debrief I became a point of discussion and felt it best to report the situation. The workload was high at the time and ATC was also very busy; so it added to the complexity of communicating. In the end; I believe we were doing what ATC expected; but may not have been cleared for the south (Runway 1 transition) when he advised 'expect Runway 1'.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.