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Attributes | |
ACN | 166607 |
Time | |
Date | 199012 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 31000 msl bound upper : 31000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 2300 |
ASRS Report | 166607 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
FAA inspector on board was conducting a cabin route inspection and was seated in passenger cabin for the flight. After the flight, the inspector questioned our use of oxy masks when one of us was absent from the flight deck. He thought he saw the pilot remaining at the controls not wearing his oxy mask. Our company apparently misinterpreted the FARS or misprinted the policy for supplemental oxy to be used in this case only above FL350 and issued this as a revision in company operations manual. They have since revised it again to above FL250 as stated in far 121. Far 91 still states use required above FL350 only. These numerous revisions have caused confusion as to what is required by FARS.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR FLT CREW ACCUSED OF OPERATING ABOVE FL250 WITH ONLY ONE PLT IN THE COCKPIT AND HE WAS NOT USING OXYGEN.
Narrative: FAA INSPECTOR ON BOARD WAS CONDUCTING A CABIN RTE INSPECTION AND WAS SEATED IN PAX CABIN FOR THE FLT. AFTER THE FLT, THE INSPECTOR QUESTIONED OUR USE OF OXY MASKS WHEN ONE OF US WAS ABSENT FROM THE FLT DECK. HE THOUGHT HE SAW THE PLT REMAINING AT THE CTLS NOT WEARING HIS OXY MASK. OUR COMPANY APPARENTLY MISINTERPRETED THE FARS OR MISPRINTED THE POLICY FOR SUPPLEMENTAL OXY TO BE USED IN THIS CASE ONLY ABOVE FL350 AND ISSUED THIS AS A REVISION IN COMPANY OPS MANUAL. THEY HAVE SINCE REVISED IT AGAIN TO ABOVE FL250 AS STATED IN FAR 121. FAR 91 STILL STATES USE REQUIRED ABOVE FL350 ONLY. THESE NUMEROUS REVISIONS HAVE CAUSED CONFUSION AS TO WHAT IS REQUIRED BY FARS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.