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Aerobatic team had conflict with small transport scheduled air carrier small transport adjacent to aerobatic practice area.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 166745 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199012 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : phx |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 4500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : phx tracon : oak |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 2400 flight time type : 300 |
| ASRS Report | 166745 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 4200 flight time type : 700 |
| ASRS Report | 167244 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified cockpit |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 1000 vertical : 1400 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was leading a flight of two aircraft on an aerobatic practice mission. We were developing a new maneuver for an air show act in which one airplane rolls around the other airplane. We had been practicing for 30 mins in a designated aerobatic practice area just northwest of turf soaring airport. The start of the maneuver required the #2 ship to begin his pass on my approximately 1000' behind and 500' above me. During the time it took to position the aircraft our heading (approximately 090 degree) took us outside the aerobatic area to the east. Just before the #2 ship started his roll I cleared the area for traffic. When the #2 ship started his roll I watched him through the first 230 degree of his roll before he disappeared under me. Just as he xed the 90 degree point in his roll, I noticed an airline small transport in my 11 O'clock position. I did not call traffic since #2 was clearing the small transport. Closest point between #2 and the small transport was approximately 1400' vertical and 1000' horizontally.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AEROBATIC TEAM HAD CONFLICT WITH SMT SCHEDULED AIR CARRIER SMT ADJACENT TO AEROBATIC PRACTICE AREA.
Narrative: I WAS LEADING A FLT OF TWO ACFT ON AN AEROBATIC PRACTICE MISSION. WE WERE DEVELOPING A NEW MANEUVER FOR AN AIR SHOW ACT IN WHICH ONE AIRPLANE ROLLS AROUND THE OTHER AIRPLANE. WE HAD BEEN PRACTICING FOR 30 MINS IN A DESIGNATED AEROBATIC PRACTICE AREA JUST NW OF TURF SOARING ARPT. THE START OF THE MANEUVER REQUIRED THE #2 SHIP TO BEGIN HIS PASS ON MY APPROX 1000' BEHIND AND 500' ABOVE ME. DURING THE TIME IT TOOK TO POS THE ACFT OUR HDG (APPROX 090 DEG) TOOK US OUTSIDE THE AEROBATIC AREA TO THE EAST. JUST BEFORE THE #2 SHIP STARTED HIS ROLL I CLRED THE AREA FOR TFC. WHEN THE #2 SHIP STARTED HIS ROLL I WATCHED HIM THROUGH THE FIRST 230 DEG OF HIS ROLL BEFORE HE DISAPPEARED UNDER ME. JUST AS HE XED THE 90 DEG POINT IN HIS ROLL, I NOTICED AN AIRLINE SMT IN MY 11 O'CLOCK POS. I DID NOT CALL TFC SINCE #2 WAS CLRING THE SMT. CLOSEST POINT BTWN #2 AND THE SMT WAS APPROX 1400' VERT AND 1000' HORIZLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.