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Attributes | |
ACN | 1677948 |
Time | |
Date | 201908 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZMP.ARTCC |
State Reference | MN |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 26 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Other / Unknown |
Narrative:
Denver sector X handed us off two aircraft at the same altitude on collision courses at FL350 with no positive separation ensured. Aircraft X checked on at FL350 south east bound. The aircraft that was slightly behind at FL350; aircraft Y; was not on our frequency and he needed to be turned to avoid loss of separation. We reached out to denver sector Y to instruct him to turn aircraft Y to the left (apparently denver X took a point out) and denver Y said he was no longer talking to that aircraft. We broadcasted in the blind for aircraft Y. We had to turn aircraft Y while still in denver center's airspace to ensure separation! Without the turn aircraft Y would have lost separation one minute inside our airspace! This is a daily occurrence that has been going on for 30 plus years but seldom gets reported because of a lack of safety culture.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZMP Controller reported an unsafe situation when Denver Center handed off two aircraft on a collision course.
Narrative: Denver Sector X handed us off two aircraft at the same altitude on collision courses at FL350 with no positive separation ensured. Aircraft X checked on at FL350 south east bound. The aircraft that was slightly behind at FL350; Aircraft Y; was not on our frequency and he needed to be turned to avoid loss of separation. We reached out to Denver Sector Y to instruct him to turn Aircraft Y to the left (apparently Denver X took a point out) and Denver Y said he was no longer talking to that aircraft. We broadcasted in the blind for Aircraft Y. We had to turn Aircraft Y while still in Denver Center's airspace to ensure separation! Without the turn Aircraft Y would have lost separation one minute inside our airspace! This is a daily occurrence that has been going on for 30 plus years but seldom gets reported because of a lack of safety culture.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.