37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 1679043 |
Time | |
Date | 201908 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream IV / G350 / G450 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Route In Use | STAR LINDZ9 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 30 Flight Crew Total 5876 Flight Crew Type 1230 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Departure |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Altitude Undershoot Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
Departing on the zzzzz departure out of ZZZ; per the SID; we took off on a heading of 343. At 9;100 feet I directed the PNF to dial in a heading 273 also per the SID. As we tracked towards the northwest outbound course the winds were stronger than anticipated and by the time we would have intercepted the northwest course outbound the 'smart turn' function started toward ZZZ1. I was hand flying and decided to make the turn early so as to not fly over zzzzz as it would have overflown the point. The turn from zzzzz to ZZZ1 is fairly tight and I was concerned we would get spit out on the outside of the turn; so I followed the HUD for the 'smart turn' software and turned slightly inside zzzzz towards ZZZ1. As I started the left-hand turn towards ZZZ1; the departure controller mentioned something about a 'possible deviation' and told us to contact ZZZ tower and gave us a land-line number. I was climbing at normal climb EPR and following HUD cues for the climb. We were also VFR; well clear of terrain (no GPWS warnings or cautions activated) and there was no other traffic in visual range or on the TCAS. After calling tower; we were essentially told there may or may not be more information about this possible deviation. No other information was given to us which increased stress and worry about a 'possible deviation' and its repercussions. Operations at ZZZ are difficult on a good day with the high altitude and mountainous terrain. This SID makes it even more difficult with three heading changes (one to 273; one to intercept the northwest course outbound; and finally a sharp turn to ZZZ1 all while climbing to 16;000 feet). ZZZ needs to put more emphasis on the FMS based RNAV departure procedure to reduce the workload on aircrew and increase safety overall.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: G450 First Officer reported altitude/heading deviation during complicated departure while simultaneously ATC was experiencing departure radar automation issues.
Narrative: Departing on the ZZZZZ departure out of ZZZ; per the SID; we took off on a heading of 343. At 9;100 feet I directed the PNF to dial in a heading 273 also per the SID. As we tracked towards the NW outbound course the winds were stronger than anticipated and by the time we would have intercepted the NW course outbound the 'smart turn' function started toward ZZZ1. I was hand flying and decided to make the turn early so as to not fly over ZZZZZ as it would have overflown the point. The turn from ZZZZZ to ZZZ1 is fairly tight and I was concerned we would get spit out on the outside of the turn; so I followed the HUD for the 'smart turn' software and turned slightly inside ZZZZZ towards ZZZ1. As I started the left-hand turn towards ZZZ1; the Departure Controller mentioned something about a 'possible deviation' and told us to contact ZZZ Tower and gave us a land-line number. I was climbing at normal climb EPR and following HUD cues for the climb. We were also VFR; well clear of terrain (NO GPWS warnings or cautions activated) and there was no other traffic in visual range or on the TCAS. After calling Tower; we were essentially told there may or may not be more information about this possible deviation. No other information was given to us which increased stress and worry about a 'possible deviation' and its repercussions. Operations at ZZZ are difficult on a good day with the high altitude and mountainous terrain. This SID makes it even more difficult with three heading changes (one to 273; one to intercept the NW course outbound; and finally a sharp turn to ZZZ1 all while climbing to 16;000 feet). ZZZ needs to put more emphasis on the FMS based RNAV departure procedure to reduce the workload on aircrew and increase safety overall.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.