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Cargo aircraft cleared for approach, then told necessary navigation aid was out of service.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 168379 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199101 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : mpv |
| State Reference | VT |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 6000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Marginal |
| Light | Dawn |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zbw |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 400 |
| ASRS Report | 168379 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Received WX brief for a flight from mht to btv. En route I received WX brief for a flight from mht to btv. En route I diverted to mpv. Initially ZBW instructed me to fly the diverted to mpv. Initially ZBW instructed me to fly the lebanon transition. This entails flying the leb 360 degree right lebanon transition. This entails flying the leb 360 degree right to intercept mpv 340 degree right. ZBW 135.7 cleared me for the to intercept mpv 340 degree right. ZBW 135.7 cleared me for the approach. I was then cleared off the frequency to advisory. Descending approach. I was then cleared off the frequency to advisory. Descending through 3500', ZBW called to get me. He informed me that through 3500', ZBW called to get me. He informed me that the mpv VOR was in fact OTS. I went missed approach and the mpv VOR was in fact OTS. I went missed approach and continued uneventfully to btv. 1) during my WX brief, I continued uneventfully to btv. 1) during my WX brief, I asked for all NOTAMS on the route and was never told of VFR asked for all NOTAMS on the route and was never told of VFR outage. 2) the controller did not know about the VOR outage outage. 2) the controller did not know about the VOR outage until I was well below the MEA. The mpv VOR was giving me until I was well below the MEA. The mpv VOR was giving me good signal indication and a good identify. The controller never good signal indication and a good identify. The controller never should have cleared me for an approach with the navaids OTS. Should have cleared me for an approach with the navaids OTS. With the NAVAID OTS, the identify should have been removed. With the NAVAID OTS, the identify should have been removed. The FSS specialist should have given me the NOTAM. (I the FSS specialist should have given me the NOTAM. (I always specifically ask for NOTAMS.) callback always specifically ask for NOTAMS.) callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter states NAVAID only taken OTS the day before. FSS issued states NAVAID only taken OTS the day before. FSS issued no NOTAM when requested. One needs to cancel IFR on the no NOTAM when requested. One needs to cancel IFR on the center frequency so reporter still had it up, otherwise center center frequency so reporter still had it up, otherwise center would not have gotten through to him. Feels this is a would not have gotten through to him. Feels this is a poor system. Poor system.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CARGO ACFT CLEARED FOR APCH, THEN TOLD NECESSARY NAVIGATION AID WAS OUT OF SERVICE.
Narrative: RECEIVED WX BRIEF FOR A FLT FROM MHT TO BTV. ENRTE I RECEIVED WX BRIEF FOR A FLT FROM MHT TO BTV. ENRTE I DIVERTED TO MPV. INITIALLY ZBW INSTRUCTED ME TO FLY THE DIVERTED TO MPV. INITIALLY ZBW INSTRUCTED ME TO FLY THE LEBANON TRANSITION. THIS ENTAILS FLYING THE LEB 360 DEG R LEBANON TRANSITION. THIS ENTAILS FLYING THE LEB 360 DEG R TO INTERCEPT MPV 340 DEG R. ZBW 135.7 CLRED ME FOR THE TO INTERCEPT MPV 340 DEG R. ZBW 135.7 CLRED ME FOR THE APCH. I WAS THEN CLRED OFF THE FREQ TO ADVISORY. DSNDING APCH. I WAS THEN CLRED OFF THE FREQ TO ADVISORY. DSNDING THROUGH 3500', ZBW CALLED TO GET ME. HE INFORMED ME THAT THROUGH 3500', ZBW CALLED TO GET ME. HE INFORMED ME THAT THE MPV VOR WAS IN FACT OTS. I WENT MISSED APCH AND THE MPV VOR WAS IN FACT OTS. I WENT MISSED APCH AND CONTINUED UNEVENTFULLY TO BTV. 1) DURING MY WX BRIEF, I CONTINUED UNEVENTFULLY TO BTV. 1) DURING MY WX BRIEF, I ASKED FOR ALL NOTAMS ON THE RTE AND WAS NEVER TOLD OF VFR ASKED FOR ALL NOTAMS ON THE RTE AND WAS NEVER TOLD OF VFR OUTAGE. 2) THE CTLR DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE VOR OUTAGE OUTAGE. 2) THE CTLR DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE VOR OUTAGE UNTIL I WAS WELL BELOW THE MEA. THE MPV VOR WAS GIVING ME UNTIL I WAS WELL BELOW THE MEA. THE MPV VOR WAS GIVING ME GOOD SIGNAL INDICATION AND A GOOD IDENT. THE CTLR NEVER GOOD SIGNAL INDICATION AND A GOOD IDENT. THE CTLR NEVER SHOULD HAVE CLRED ME FOR AN APCH WITH THE NAVAIDS OTS. SHOULD HAVE CLRED ME FOR AN APCH WITH THE NAVAIDS OTS. WITH THE NAVAID OTS, THE IDENT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED. WITH THE NAVAID OTS, THE IDENT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED. THE FSS SPECIALIST SHOULD HAVE GIVEN ME THE NOTAM. (I THE FSS SPECIALIST SHOULD HAVE GIVEN ME THE NOTAM. (I ALWAYS SPECIFICALLY ASK FOR NOTAMS.) CALLBACK ALWAYS SPECIFICALLY ASK FOR NOTAMS.) CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR STATES NAVAID ONLY TAKEN OTS THE DAY BEFORE. FSS ISSUED STATES NAVAID ONLY TAKEN OTS THE DAY BEFORE. FSS ISSUED NO NOTAM WHEN REQUESTED. ONE NEEDS TO CANCEL IFR ON THE NO NOTAM WHEN REQUESTED. ONE NEEDS TO CANCEL IFR ON THE CENTER FREQ SO RPTR STILL HAD IT UP, OTHERWISE CENTER CENTER FREQ SO RPTR STILL HAD IT UP, OTHERWISE CENTER WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN THROUGH TO HIM. FEELS THIS IS A WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN THROUGH TO HIM. FEELS THIS IS A POOR SYSTEM. POOR SYSTEM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.