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Attributes | |
ACN | 168721 |
Time | |
Date | 199101 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cvg |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 5800 flight time type : 3100 |
ASRS Report | 168721 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : ground |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
With the opening of the new parallel runway, the promise was increased capacity and less delays. After the flight the other day, it may not hold true for north vs south runway operations. West/O any delays due to ramp traffic, ground took 30 mins to get us in position for takeoff. During our forced 1/2 observation of ground control, we saw: 1) traffic at a standstill for no apparent reason. 2) frequent directions to hold short of inactive runways. 3) several instances of uncoord between the handoffs of split ground controls. 4) confusion by ground of aircraft position, call signs and order. Don't know if training was being conducted, but this was the worst handling I had seen here. It was obvious that they had lost it. I hope that it's growing pains and they learn to handle routine operations so that they can work under the demands of restr visibility or an emergency.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT COMPLAINT REFERENCING ATC HANDLING DURING TAXI FOR DEP AT CVG.
Narrative: WITH THE OPENING OF THE NEW PARALLEL RWY, THE PROMISE WAS INCREASED CAPACITY AND LESS DELAYS. AFTER THE FLT THE OTHER DAY, IT MAY NOT HOLD TRUE FOR N VS S RWY OPS. W/O ANY DELAYS DUE TO RAMP TFC, GND TOOK 30 MINS TO GET US IN POS FOR TKOF. DURING OUR FORCED 1/2 OBSERVATION OF GND CTL, WE SAW: 1) TFC AT A STANDSTILL FOR NO APPARENT REASON. 2) FREQUENT DIRECTIONS TO HOLD SHORT OF INACTIVE RWYS. 3) SEVERAL INSTANCES OF UNCOORD BTWN THE HDOFS OF SPLIT GND CTLS. 4) CONFUSION BY GND OF ACFT POS, CALL SIGNS AND ORDER. DON'T KNOW IF TRNING WAS BEING CONDUCTED, BUT THIS WAS THE WORST HANDLING I HAD SEEN HERE. IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT THEY HAD LOST IT. I HOPE THAT IT'S GROWING PAINS AND THEY LEARN TO HANDLE ROUTINE OPS SO THAT THEY CAN WORK UNDER THE DEMANDS OF RESTR VISIBILITY OR AN EMER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.