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ATC controller directed a B-737 crew inbound to ewr to descend to 7000 ft during the arrival and to keep the aircraft speed at 305 knots below 10;000 ft altitude.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1691566 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201910 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | EWR.Airport |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B737 Next Generation Undifferentiated |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Route In Use | Vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
Approximately 20 miles southwest of rbv inbound to ewr; and level at 10000 feet and about 305 kts; we received a clearance from ATC to; 'descend to 7000 and keep your current speed below 10000 to 7000. I'll tell you when to slow'. We confirmed the clearance and I started a descent to 7000 at 305 kts. After several minutes at 7000 we received a hand off without a speed reduction. We queried the next controller about our speed and his response was; 'I don't care'. At that point I slowed to 250 kts. The rest of the flight was uneventful. It wasn't clear to me at the time that ATC is not authorized to clear me for a speed above 250 below 10000 feet and I should have rejected the clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATC controller directed a B-737 crew inbound to EWR to descend to 7000 ft during the arrival and to keep the aircraft speed at 305 knots below 10;000 ft altitude.
Narrative: Approximately 20 miles SW of RBV inbound to EWR; and level at 10000 feet and about 305 kts; we received a clearance from ATC to; 'descend to 7000 and keep your current speed below 10000 to 7000. I'll tell you when to slow'. We confirmed the clearance and I started a descent to 7000 at 305 kts. After several minutes at 7000 we received a hand off without a speed reduction. We queried the next controller about our speed and his response was; 'I don't care'. At that point I slowed to 250 kts. The rest of the flight was uneventful. It wasn't clear to me at the time that ATC is not authorized to clear me for a speed above 250 below 10000 feet and I should have rejected the clearance.
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