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Attributes | |
ACN | 1695811 |
Time | |
Date | 201910 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Challenger 650 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Engine |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Multiengine |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Critical Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Following what we thought was a normal shutdown; I noticed the left engine itt (interstage turbine temperature) was slowly rising. The rise was very gradual; and if I had just gotten up out of my seat following the checklist I might have missed it. Watching it; I realized something was wrong; and I knew we had been given a similar scenario during initial. I knew the remedy was to dry motor the engine which I started doing before the itt exceeded limits. I motored the engine; monitoring the slowly dropping itt while I asked my partner to look for an appropriate checklist. I did not immediately recall the name of the checklist because I had only seen the scenario once during initial; and the simulator presented a very different set of symptoms: instead of the slow rise; the sim presented a much more rapid rise. Once I got the itt below 150; I stopped motoring; and the itt began to rise again. This too was different than the simulator scenario; where the fire went out after a single dry motoring. My partner on IOE (initial operating experience) could not identify an appropriate checklist; so I decided to call the company for assistance; he got out of the seat and opened the door because line service was trying to gain our attention. They reported seeing a fire on our initial shutdown. On the third dry motoring; while talking with maintenance; the itt finally dropped to a normal level; but again began a slow rise. We discussed shutting off the fuel with the fire switch; but by this time the engine had cooled on cycle 5 of the starter. After the immediate crisis I was able to look at the qrc and found that the correct checklist was tail pipe fire. However; that checklist would have had us essentially abandon the aircraft after attempting to dry motor once. At no point did the itt exceed limits; but I'm fairly certain that the starter limits were exceeded. See recommendationsemphasize this scenario at training; with a revision to show a much more insidious itt rise. Revise the checklist to be clear as to how many times the engine should be dry motored before pressing the fire switch; and clarify if dry motoring should take place after pressing the fire switch. Further revise the checklist on what steps to take if the APU is inoperable; or otherwise shut down. Clarify the meaning of the starter limitations; it's described several different ways; which adds ambiguity.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CL-650 Captain reported encountering tail pipe fire after engine shutdown.
Narrative: Following what we thought was a normal shutdown; I noticed the left engine ITT (Interstage Turbine Temperature) was slowly rising. The rise was very gradual; and if I had just gotten up out of my seat following the checklist I might have missed it. Watching it; I realized something was wrong; and I knew we had been given a similar scenario during initial. I knew the remedy was to dry motor the engine which I started doing before the ITT exceeded limits. I motored the engine; monitoring the slowly dropping ITT while I asked my partner to look for an appropriate checklist. I did not immediately recall the name of the checklist because I had only seen the scenario once during initial; and the simulator presented a very different set of symptoms: instead of the slow rise; the sim presented a much more rapid rise. Once I got the ITT below 150; I stopped motoring; and the ITT began to rise again. This too was different than the simulator scenario; where the fire went out after a single dry motoring. My Partner on IOE (Initial Operating Experience) could not identify an appropriate checklist; so I decided to call the Company for assistance; he got out of the seat and opened the door because line service was trying to gain our attention. They reported seeing a fire on our initial shutdown. On the third dry motoring; while talking with Maintenance; the ITT finally dropped to a normal level; but again began a slow rise. We discussed shutting off the fuel with the fire switch; but by this time the engine had cooled on cycle 5 of the starter. After the immediate crisis I was able to look at the QRC and found that the correct checklist was Tail Pipe Fire. However; that checklist would have had us essentially abandon the aircraft after attempting to dry motor once. At no point did the ITT exceed limits; but I'm fairly certain that the starter limits were exceeded. See recommendationsEmphasize this scenario at training; with a revision to show a much more insidious ITT rise. Revise the checklist to be clear as to how many times the engine should be dry motored before pressing the fire switch; and clarify if dry motoring should take place after pressing the fire switch. Further revise the checklist on what steps to take if the APU is inoperable; or otherwise shut down. Clarify the meaning of the starter limitations; it's described several different ways; which adds ambiguity.
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