Commuter light transport was overloaded by company ground personnel at sfo and the load was outside ...

Attributes
ACN	169904
Time
Date	199102
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : sfo
State Reference	CA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff ground : preflight landing other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 2000
ASRS Report	169903
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 3300 flight time type : 1100
ASRS Report	169908
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Airport
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

We were asked limits for flight. These were given as 30 passenger and 45 bags. Per the ramp operation form, initialed, we were loaded with 44 bags and 35 pounds in the cargo compartment. We had 29 passenger. According to these #south we were within both cg and weight limits. On takeoff, with the trim at the forward edge of the green range, the aircraft pitched sharply upward on rotation. Both pilots noted that the aircraft was extremely pitch sensitive. On landing the aircraft was very pitch sensitive. On the landing roll directional control was squirrely. The rdd ramper and captain counted the bags as they were taken off. On board were 52 bags. One was marked 'heavy,' and 2 were duffel bags, totally 55 bags. Additionally, there were 2 pieces of freight manifested at 51 pounds. This put the cargo load at 1343.5 pounds, or 130.5 pounds over maximum. This also caused the aircraft to be 100 plus pounds over maximum takeoff weight and out of cg (aft). On further examination, 8 bags were to go on the following flight and 3 were to go to rdm. Additionally, there was a dog boarded (part of the count) that the crew was not notified of. This is an extremely hazardous situation that could lead to an accident. Again the bag count was off by 11 bags and 16# (175+#). This caused us to overload the cargo compartment, exceed both maximum ramp and takeoff weights, and fly out of cg (aft).

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: COMMUTER LTT WAS OVERLOADED BY CGP AT SFO AND THE LOAD WAS OUTSIDE ACFT CG LIMITS. ERROR WAS NOT DISCOVERED UNTIL AFTER TKOF AND THE LOAD ERROR WAS CONFIRMED AT DEST.

Narrative: WE WERE ASKED LIMITS FOR FLT. THESE WERE GIVEN AS 30 PAX AND 45 BAGS. PER THE RAMP OPERATION FORM, INITIALED, WE WERE LOADED WITH 44 BAGS AND 35 LBS IN THE CARGO COMPARTMENT. WE HAD 29 PAX. ACCORDING TO THESE #S WE WERE WITHIN BOTH CG AND WT LIMITS. ON TKOF, WITH THE TRIM AT THE FORWARD EDGE OF THE GREEN RANGE, THE ACFT PITCHED SHARPLY UPWARD ON ROTATION. BOTH PLTS NOTED THAT THE ACFT WAS EXTREMELY PITCH SENSITIVE. ON LNDG THE ACFT WAS VERY PITCH SENSITIVE. ON THE LNDG ROLL DIRECTIONAL CTL WAS SQUIRRELY. THE RDD RAMPER AND CAPT COUNTED THE BAGS AS THEY WERE TAKEN OFF. ON BOARD WERE 52 BAGS. ONE WAS MARKED 'HEAVY,' AND 2 WERE DUFFEL BAGS, TOTALLY 55 BAGS. ADDITIONALLY, THERE WERE 2 PIECES OF FREIGHT MANIFESTED AT 51 LBS. THIS PUT THE CARGO LOAD AT 1343.5 LBS, OR 130.5 LBS OVER MAX. THIS ALSO CAUSED THE ACFT TO BE 100 PLUS LBS OVER MAX TKOF WT AND OUT OF CG (AFT). ON FURTHER EXAMINATION, 8 BAGS WERE TO GO ON THE FOLLOWING FLT AND 3 WERE TO GO TO RDM. ADDITIONALLY, THERE WAS A DOG BOARDED (PART OF THE COUNT) THAT THE CREW WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF. THIS IS AN EXTREMELY HAZARDOUS SITUATION THAT COULD LEAD TO AN ACCIDENT. AGAIN THE BAG COUNT WAS OFF BY 11 BAGS AND 16# (175+#). THIS CAUSED US TO OVERLOAD THE CARGO COMPARTMENT, EXCEED BOTH MAX RAMP AND TKOF WTS, AND FLY OUT OF CG (AFT).

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Commuter light transport was overloaded by company ground personnel at sfo and the load was outside aircraft cg limits. Error was not discovered until after takeoff and the load error was confirmed at destination.