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Attributes | |
ACN | 170397 |
Time | |
Date | 199102 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhu |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 12000 |
ASRS Report | 170397 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
This had never happened to this writer but I recognize a problem. The commonly used terminology 'hold short' and 'taxi position and hold' should be changed. The FAA should mandate that the correct terminology should be something like 'taxi position'. It should be pointed out to everyone that the word 'hold' should not be used in both these phrases; and the word 'hold' should only be used with 'short' in 'hold short.' a pilot may feel that the runway will be available to them for takeoff in a few seconds, and with this in mind, when the controller tells him 'hold short' (along with possibly an after takeoff heading or new transponder code or departure frequency), the pilot taxies into position and holds.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: REPORTER SUGGESTS PHRASEOLOGY OF THE WORD HOLD SHOULD ONLY BE USED IN 'HOLD SHORT'.
Narrative: THIS HAD NEVER HAPPENED TO THIS WRITER BUT I RECOGNIZE A PROB. THE COMMONLY USED TERMINOLOGY 'HOLD SHORT' AND 'TAXI POS AND HOLD' SHOULD BE CHANGED. THE FAA SHOULD MANDATE THAT THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY SHOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE 'TAXI POS'. IT SHOULD BE POINTED OUT TO EVERYONE THAT THE WORD 'HOLD' SHOULD NOT BE USED IN BOTH THESE PHRASES; AND THE WORD 'HOLD' SHOULD ONLY BE USED WITH 'SHORT' IN 'HOLD SHORT.' A PLT MAY FEEL THAT THE RWY WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THEM FOR TKOF IN A FEW SECS, AND WITH THIS IN MIND, WHEN THE CTLR TELLS HIM 'HOLD SHORT' (ALONG WITH POSSIBLY AN AFTER TKOF HDG OR NEW XPONDER CODE OR DEP FREQ), THE PLT TAXIES INTO POS AND HOLDS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.