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Attributes | |
ACN | 170500 |
Time | |
Date | 199102 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dpk airport : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Heavy Transport, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | landing other other other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : zny |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 105 flight time total : 6300 flight time type : 105 |
ASRS Report | 170500 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Right after takeoff got possible fire (high temperature) indication on the 'a' loop. 'B' loop was inoperative, with no fire light or bell. Captain had been PF, so xferred PF and ATC radio duty to first officer discuss problem with F/east and company maintenance. We were planned for a high altitude route and were set up accordingly (high charts only out). On a radar vector after passing sie nebnd at 11000'. Then at about 50 DME from dpk VOR ATC (ZNY) cleared us to hold at camrn intersection as published and advised we were 'passing' it. Center asked us to start a left turn to reciprocal heading. We were doing 300 KIAS. Captain then took over and delayed starting deceleration and confign for 230 KIAS. ATC could not give us more than 10 mi legs. Meanwhile, first officer pulled out low charts and misset course indicators to 031 degrees instead of 041 degrees. At 63 DME captain turned over controls to first officer again. First officer started turn to left and intercepted the 031 degree right dpk, 10 mi east of where we should have been. Controller giving us a hold when we were already past intersection doing 300 KIAS with a possible engine fire. (Sometime during all of this we had shut down #4 engine and advised ATC of such.) also, for not advising us sooner that our turn radios and heading were taking us away from the holding pattern. Crew for accepting hold clearance west/O being ready--no advance warning to set up navigation radios and slow down. First officer for misreading chart and inserting wrong course. Captain for repeatedly exchanging flying duties with first officer possibly contributed to neither pilot double-checking the map. Ps: we ended up dumping 650000 pounds of fuel and landing at jfk with bare WX minimums. The workload was extremely high for the entire flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ENGINE HIGH TEMPERATURE WARNING ON HEAVY CARGO LINER. HOLDING PATTERN OVERSHOT. DUMP FUEL, LAND AT JFK.
Narrative: RIGHT AFTER TKOF GOT POSSIBLE FIRE (HIGH TEMP) INDICATION ON THE 'A' LOOP. 'B' LOOP WAS INOP, WITH NO FIRE LIGHT OR BELL. CAPT HAD BEEN PF, SO XFERRED PF AND ATC RADIO DUTY TO F/O DISCUSS PROB WITH F/E AND COMPANY MAINT. WE WERE PLANNED FOR A HIGH ALT RTE AND WERE SET UP ACCORDINGLY (HIGH CHARTS ONLY OUT). ON A RADAR VECTOR AFTER PASSING SIE NEBND AT 11000'. THEN AT ABOUT 50 DME FROM DPK VOR ATC (ZNY) CLRED US TO HOLD AT CAMRN INTXN AS PUBLISHED AND ADVISED WE WERE 'PASSING' IT. CENTER ASKED US TO START A LEFT TURN TO RECIPROCAL HDG. WE WERE DOING 300 KIAS. CAPT THEN TOOK OVER AND DELAYED STARTING DECELERATION AND CONFIGN FOR 230 KIAS. ATC COULD NOT GIVE US MORE THAN 10 MI LEGS. MEANWHILE, F/O PULLED OUT LOW CHARTS AND MISSET COURSE INDICATORS TO 031 DEGS INSTEAD OF 041 DEGS. AT 63 DME CAPT TURNED OVER CTLS TO F/O AGAIN. F/O STARTED TURN TO LEFT AND INTERCEPTED THE 031 DEG R DPK, 10 MI E OF WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN. CTLR GIVING US A HOLD WHEN WE WERE ALREADY PAST INTXN DOING 300 KIAS WITH A POSSIBLE ENG FIRE. (SOMETIME DURING ALL OF THIS WE HAD SHUT DOWN #4 ENG AND ADVISED ATC OF SUCH.) ALSO, FOR NOT ADVISING US SOONER THAT OUR TURN RADIOS AND HDG WERE TAKING US AWAY FROM THE HOLDING PATTERN. CREW FOR ACCEPTING HOLD CLRNC W/O BEING READY--NO ADVANCE WARNING TO SET UP NAV RADIOS AND SLOW DOWN. F/O FOR MISREADING CHART AND INSERTING WRONG COURSE. CAPT FOR REPEATEDLY EXCHANGING FLYING DUTIES WITH F/O POSSIBLY CONTRIBUTED TO NEITHER PLT DOUBLE-CHKING THE MAP. PS: WE ENDED UP DUMPING 650000 LBS OF FUEL AND LNDG AT JFK WITH BARE WX MINIMUMS. THE WORKLOAD WAS EXTREMELY HIGH FOR THE ENTIRE FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.