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B737 flight crew reported that poor coordination between ground and tower controllers resulted in a runway incursion.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1711754 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201912 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B737-400 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Medium Transport |
| Flight Phase | Taxi |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Ground Conflict Critical Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Clearance Ground Incursion Runway |
Narrative:
This is a runway incursion event. The first officer (first officer) performed the landing on runway xxr at ZZZ. As we exited the runway during a busy time for the first officer; instructions were given for us to turn right on D; right on 'a'; hold short of runway xy. Upon exiting the runway; the first officer contacted ground control without being instructed to do so from the tower. Ground control instructed us to 'cross runway xy; 'a' 'H' to the cargo ramp. Apparently this was not coordinated with the tower. The airplane was fully lit up for the crossing and we cleared left and right; but we did not see the business jet passing about 50-100 feet right in front of us. I think the tower controller came on the frequency just when we were about to cross and instructed us to hold short! We abruptly stopped with the nose just past the hold short line and a few feet from the runway edge markings. We were then instructed to cross the runway; alpha; hotel; to the cargo ramp. We were informed of a possible pilot deviation and given a phone number to call. During the phone call; (which I think was the tower controller) he informed me that he had instructed us to hold short three times. We informed him that we were on ground control and that we had been cleared to cross. He reviewed the tapes and apologized.a very tired crew from our third hub turn; receiving instructions from the controller at a busy time. The changed frequency without being instructed. Poor coordination with the tower and ground controller (my opinion). Also we were not told the reason for the hold short; i.e.; 'hold short of xy for departing traffic; or; stay with me' which seems to be a standard. We are also absolutely sure that the ground controller cleared us to cross. Probably having our lights on and quick action stopping the plane made for a much better outcome.I informed the first officer not to ever change to ground control after exiting the runway until instructed by the tower. Apparently there is a misunderstanding of this procedure among many pilots. The controllers should always give a reason for a hold short clearance to give us situational awareness.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 flight crew reported that poor coordination between Ground and Tower controllers resulted in a runway incursion.
Narrative: This is a runway incursion event. The FO (First Officer) performed the landing on Runway XXR at ZZZ. As we exited the runway during a busy time for the FO; instructions were given for us to turn right on D; right on 'A'; hold short of Runway XY. Upon exiting the runway; the FO contacted Ground Control without being instructed to do so from the Tower. Ground Control instructed us to 'Cross Runway XY; 'A' 'H' to the cargo ramp. Apparently this was not coordinated with the Tower. The airplane was fully lit up for the crossing and we cleared left and right; but we did not see the business jet passing about 50-100 feet right in front of us. I think the Tower Controller came on the frequency just when we were about to cross and instructed us to HOLD SHORT! We abruptly stopped with the nose just past the hold short line and a few feet from the runway edge markings. We were then instructed to cross the runway; Alpha; Hotel; to the cargo ramp. We were informed of a possible pilot deviation and given a phone number to call. During the phone call; (which I think was the Tower Controller) he informed me that he had instructed us to hold short three times. We informed him that we were on Ground Control and that we had been cleared to cross. He reviewed the tapes and apologized.A very tired crew from our third hub turn; receiving instructions from the Controller at a busy time. The changed frequency without being instructed. Poor coordination with the Tower and Ground Controller (my opinion). Also we were not told the reason for the hold short; i.e.; 'hold short of XY for departing traffic; or; stay with me' which seems to be a standard. We are also absolutely sure that the Ground Controller cleared us to cross. Probably having our lights on and quick action stopping the plane made for a much better outcome.I informed the FO not to ever change to Ground Control after exiting the runway until instructed by the Tower. Apparently there is a misunderstanding of this procedure among many pilots. The controllers should always give a reason for a hold short clearance to give us situational awareness.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.