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Attributes | |
ACN | 1738139 |
Time | |
Date | 202003 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | No Aircraft |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
[Airline] should not be doing [training] events during the current national situation. Doing events 'needlessly' puts three people in to a small classroom...that probably was used by three others right before they got there. And three before them. Was the classroom sterilized? And then those three people get in to a small sim cockpit for 3-4 hours; talking a lot (which results in a lot of aerosol saliva) and well within 6 feet from each other.they get out of the sim...and three more get in.XXXX; XXXX; and the other experts have spoken; and the edicts have been given: social distancing... And employers should not bring employees in unless absolutely necessary. Cycle sims are not 'necessary.' not getting them done is not going to impact our operation in the least. Events could be delayed for 1-4 months for this national issue. Call the FAA; and get whatever waiver is required. [State] doesn't have as strict edicts as many other states; but even so governor [name] has stated employers need to cut on-property workers by a minimum of xx%. Has [airline] done anything close to this? Has the governor called the FAA to get the waiver. Get it done.yes; there are still pilots getting into real cockpit together and flying trips. Got it. That's a different issue. This is about mitigating the risk in the [company] environment; for a large group of pilots that do two-days there; and then spread back out to their domiciles.as a minimum...as a bare minimum...[airline] should at least be complying with the government's 15 day window of minimizing social interaction. Do we honestly believe that stopping some training events like these are 'mission essential'?getting pilots infected in the sim because of the massive amount of social interaction that occurs at the microscopic level in [airline] is inexcusable for training that can be delayed. Let's get [training] shut down for a few weeks; and anything else that doesn't pass the common sense check.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air carrier First Officer reported problems associated with required training and social distancing.
Narrative: [Airline] should not be doing [training] events during the current national situation. Doing events 'needlessly' puts three people in to a small classroom...that probably was used by three others right before they got there. And three before them. Was the classroom sterilized? And then those three people get in to a small sim cockpit for 3-4 hours; talking a lot (which results in a lot of aerosol saliva) and well within 6 feet from each other.They get out of the sim...and three more get in.XXXX; XXXX; and the other experts have spoken; and the edicts have been given: social distancing... and employers should not bring employees in unless absolutely necessary. Cycle sims are not 'necessary.' Not getting them done is not going to impact our operation in the least. Events could be delayed for 1-4 months for this national issue. Call the FAA; and get whatever waiver is required. [State] doesn't have as strict edicts as many other states; but even so Governor [name] has stated employers need to cut on-property workers by a minimum of XX%. Has [airline] done anything close to this? Has the Governor called the FAA to get the waiver. Get it done.Yes; there are still pilots getting into real cockpit together and flying trips. Got it. That's a different issue. This is about mitigating the risk in the [company] environment; for a large group of pilots that do two-days there; and then spread back out to their domiciles.As a minimum...as a BARE MINIMUM...[airline] should at least be complying with the government's 15 day window of minimizing social interaction. Do we honestly believe that stopping some training events like these are 'mission essential'?Getting pilots infected in the sim because of the massive amount of social interaction that occurs at the microscopic level in [airline] is inexcusable for training that can be delayed. Let's get [training] shut down for a few weeks; and anything else that doesn't pass the common sense check.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.