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Attributes | |
ACN | 174379 |
Time | |
Date | 199103 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 97 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 174379 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Airport | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Mac continuation of flight from saudi arabia. Flight segment lax-hnl. Lax operations told me inbound load planner on aircraft would come down to operations and give me outbnd weight and balance over company radio. Passenger count was 390 marines. Crew 13 F/a's, 3 cockpit and 1 FAA jump seat rider. Once onboard, talked to marine col and he advised me he had 392 marines. F/east gave passenger count to load planning and received weight and balance #south. 2 days later I found out from FAA jump seat rider that there was no load planning on inbound flight. Local lax operations gave us weight and balance based on regular passenger weights.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: IMPROPER WEIGHTS GIVEN ON WEIGHT MANIFEST FROM LAX TO HNL ON OPERATION DESERT STORM CHARTER FLT.
Narrative: MAC CONTINUATION OF FLT FROM SAUDI ARABIA. FLT SEGMENT LAX-HNL. LAX OPS TOLD ME INBND LOAD PLANNER ON ACFT WOULD COME DOWN TO OPS AND GIVE ME OUTBND WT AND BAL OVER COMPANY RADIO. PAX COUNT WAS 390 MARINES. CREW 13 F/A'S, 3 COCKPIT AND 1 FAA JUMP SEAT RIDER. ONCE ONBOARD, TALKED TO MARINE COL AND HE ADVISED ME HE HAD 392 MARINES. F/E GAVE PAX COUNT TO LOAD PLANNING AND RECEIVED WT AND BAL #S. 2 DAYS LATER I FOUND OUT FROM FAA JUMP SEAT RIDER THAT THERE WAS NO LOAD PLANNING ON INBND FLT. LCL LAX OPS GAVE US WT AND BAL BASED ON REGULAR PAX WTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.