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Attributes | |
ACN | 174509 |
Time | |
Date | 199104 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
ASRS Report | 174509 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Both incidents involve TCAS. Air carrier X at 11000' advised ATC of initiating climb after already climbing 400' above assigned altitude of 11000' due to TCAS alert. Traffic causing alert was 10300'. Cpr Y at 3000' issued traffic 3 or more times on same target at 2500'. Cpr Y then climbed based on TCAS instructions, west/O ATC authorization. In this case, aircraft was being shuttled under 4000' traffic in pattern for ord runway 9R approach. Unsafe condition report was also filed on 4/X/91. There is no established policy or procedure for these altitude deviations.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X AND CPR Y NON ADHERENCE TO ATC CLRNC. RECURRENT EVENT TCASII CAUSES FLT CREW EXCURSION FROM ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: BOTH INCIDENTS INVOLVE TCAS. ACR X AT 11000' ADVISED ATC OF INITIATING CLB AFTER ALREADY CLBING 400' ABOVE ASSIGNED ALT OF 11000' DUE TO TCAS ALERT. TFC CAUSING ALERT WAS 10300'. CPR Y AT 3000' ISSUED TFC 3 OR MORE TIMES ON SAME TARGET AT 2500'. CPR Y THEN CLBED BASED ON TCAS INSTRUCTIONS, W/O ATC AUTHORIZATION. IN THIS CASE, ACFT WAS BEING SHUTTLED UNDER 4000' TFC IN PATTERN FOR ORD RWY 9R APCH. UNSAFE CONDITION RPT WAS ALSO FILED ON 4/X/91. THERE IS NO ESTABLISHED POLICY OR PROC FOR THESE ALT DEVIATIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.