<< >> NASA ASRS Report 1756839, August 2020

Air carrier flight crew reported inadvertently crossing the runway hold short line while attempting to turn onto a taxiway.

Attributes
ACN	1756839
Time
Date	202008
Local Time Of Day	0601-1200
Place
Locale Reference	ZZZ.Airport
State Reference	US
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	Taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Function	Pilot Not Flying First Officer
Qualification	Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP)
Person 2
Function	Pilot Flying Captain
Qualification	Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP)
Events
Anomaly	ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Ground Incursion Runway

Narrative:

During taxi out we were given instructions to taxi xxl via mike; hold short of echo delta. Upon stopping short of echo delta; ground then instructed us to 'make the right turn on echo delta; hold short of xxr approach.' while the captain was turning I noted the hold short line was immediately in front of us. By the time he realized what I said the aircraft nose stopped just past the hold short line. We immediately notified ground who then instructed us to continue taxi to xxl.the wording the ground controller used to 'make the right turn onto echo delta' is somewhat misleading. The hold short line is so close to the taxiway intersection there is no way the aircraft can even turn 90 degrees and still hold short.I would say the controllers should stay with our original taxi clearance of 'hold short of echo delta on mike' until cleared through the xxr approach path.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: Air carrier flight crew reported inadvertently crossing the runway hold short line while attempting to turn onto a taxiway.

Narrative: During taxi out we were given instructions to taxi XXL via Mike; hold short of Echo Delta. Upon stopping short of Echo Delta; ground then instructed us to 'make the right turn on Echo Delta; hold short of XXR approach.' While the Captain was turning I noted the hold short line was immediately in front of us. By the time he realized what I said the aircraft nose stopped just past the hold short line. We immediately notified Ground who then instructed us to continue taxi to XXL.The wording the Ground Controller used to 'make the right turn onto echo delta' is somewhat misleading. The hold short line is so close to the taxiway intersection there is no way the aircraft can even turn 90 degrees and still hold short.I would say the controllers should stay with our original taxi clearance of 'hold short of Echo Delta on Mike' until cleared through the XXR approach path.

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