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Attributes | |
ACN | 178813 |
Time | |
Date | 199105 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9400 flight time type : 320 |
ASRS Report | 178813 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After holding on the STAR route for 1 hour, we were racing a trw to the airport. C/left/right (cockpit/leadership/resource) of crew coordination was working well. As we passed the OM, the tower reported wind of 190/16g29 and 'heavy' rain. All 3 crew members agreed that this was time to retreat. The PF made an immediate right turn prior to the PNF getting missed approach instructions. As a result, we turned into traffic on ILS 13R. We were able to eventually get a visibility on the traffic. ATC tried to give us a left turn. However, we were turning at maximum bank and were committed. ATC then gave an 'immediate climb' clearance to 4000'. We did this and proceeded to an alternate. To have avoided this problem, I think as a crew we could have anticipated this situation in advance and coordinated with ATC for this eventuality. To justify my not having foreseen this problem is the fact that I did not consider our position from the trw to be a problem, but only if we attempted to land. I felt that we could have continued on our course long enough to coordinate with ATC. Apparently the PF did not. I was caught by surprise with the rapidity of his turn.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF LGT ON SHORT FINAL DECIDED TO ABORT THE APCH AND MADE AN ABRUPT RIGHT TURN BEFORE ADVISING TWR CTLR. TURN WAS TOWARD TRAFFIC ON PARALLEL RWY APCH.
Narrative: AFTER HOLDING ON THE STAR RTE FOR 1 HR, WE WERE RACING A TRW TO THE ARPT. C/L/R (COCKPIT/LEADERSHIP/RESOURCE) OF CREW COORD WAS WORKING WELL. AS WE PASSED THE OM, THE TWR RPTED WIND OF 190/16G29 AND 'HEAVY' RAIN. ALL 3 CREW MEMBERS AGREED THAT THIS WAS TIME TO RETREAT. THE PF MADE AN IMMEDIATE RIGHT TURN PRIOR TO THE PNF GETTING MISSED APCH INSTRUCTIONS. AS A RESULT, WE TURNED INTO TFC ON ILS 13R. WE WERE ABLE TO EVENTUALLY GET A VIS ON THE TFC. ATC TRIED TO GIVE US A LEFT TURN. HOWEVER, WE WERE TURNING AT MAX BANK AND WERE COMMITTED. ATC THEN GAVE AN 'IMMEDIATE CLB' CLRNC TO 4000'. WE DID THIS AND PROCEEDED TO AN ALTERNATE. TO HAVE AVOIDED THIS PROB, I THINK AS A CREW WE COULD HAVE ANTICIPATED THIS SITUATION IN ADVANCE AND COORDINATED WITH ATC FOR THIS EVENTUALITY. TO JUSTIFY MY NOT HAVING FORESEEN THIS PROB IS THE FACT THAT I DID NOT CONSIDER OUR POS FROM THE TRW TO BE A PROB, BUT ONLY IF WE ATTEMPTED TO LAND. I FELT THAT WE COULD HAVE CONTINUED ON OUR COURSE LONG ENOUGH TO COORDINATE WITH ATC. APPARENTLY THE PF DID NOT. I WAS CAUGHT BY SURPRISE WITH THE RAPIDITY OF HIS TURN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.