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Attributes | |
ACN | 179412 |
Time | |
Date | 199105 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ind |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Military Transport |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 179412 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 3100 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 179266 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : assigned or threatened penalties |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 48000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cruising at FL410 and given descent to FL330. FL330 was put in altitude preset. We started down and leveled off at FL330. Upon level flight at FL330, we looked out at 1-2 O'clock and saw a military aircraft at same altitude 15-20 mi away. We questioned the controller we should be at FL330. He said, 'turn left 20 degrees, you should be at FL350.' so we turned left 20 degrees and climbed up to 350 degrees and leveled off. Nothing else was said until handoff to next frequency, at which time the controller stated, 'you may or may not have been involved in an operational error. Would you like the phone #?' at this time he gave us the # and we copied it down, but didn't call. We interpreted it as a controller error.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CGA DESCENDED BELOW ASSIGNED ALT RESULTING IN LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION.
Narrative: WE WERE CRUISING AT FL410 AND GIVEN DSNT TO FL330. FL330 WAS PUT IN ALT PRESET. WE STARTED DOWN AND LEVELED OFF AT FL330. UPON LEVEL FLT AT FL330, WE LOOKED OUT AT 1-2 O'CLOCK AND SAW A MIL ACFT AT SAME ALT 15-20 MI AWAY. WE QUESTIONED THE CTLR WE SHOULD BE AT FL330. HE SAID, 'TURN LEFT 20 DEGS, YOU SHOULD BE AT FL350.' SO WE TURNED LEFT 20 DEGS AND CLBED UP TO 350 DEGS AND LEVELED OFF. NOTHING ELSE WAS SAID UNTIL HDOF TO NEXT FREQ, AT WHICH TIME THE CTLR STATED, 'YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN AN OPERROR. WOULD YOU LIKE THE PHONE #?' AT THIS TIME HE GAVE US THE # AND WE COPIED IT DOWN, BUT DIDN'T CALL. WE INTERPRETED IT AS A CTLR ERROR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.