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Attributes | |
ACN | 182792 |
Time | |
Date | 199107 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : vny |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 1300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : vny tower : clt |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 7200 flight time type : 270 |
ASRS Report | 182792 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure other |
Narrative:
Upon return to vny from a normal passenger drop-off flight. We decided to do a few night lndgs. Our normal approach to vny with south winds is a left base to an approach to the parallel taxiway of runway 16L. Since our plan was to do multiple night lndgs. We requested and received clearance to land on runway 16L. On base leg, I advised the tower that use wanted to do several lndgs. The tower operator said he would arrange to switch us to the 16L frequency (we were operating on helicopter frequency), and we continued our approach to the runway. When we had initially requested to land on the runway, we were cleared to do so and tower said that downwind traffic was extending for us. On short final, tower asked if we were approaching the taxiway or runway. I told him the runway. That was what I understood clearance to be. Tower said to land and hold, at which time fixed-wing traffic made a go around over the top of us. We were then switched to the runway frequency and were instructed to do our night approachs in the fixed-wind pattern.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CORP HELICOPTER PRACTICING NIGHT LNDGS IS CLEARED TO LAND ON RWY. TWR THINKS CLEARED TO LAND TXWY. SECOND ACFT DOES GO AROUND.
Narrative: UPON RETURN TO VNY FROM A NORMAL PAX DROP-OFF FLT. WE DECIDED TO DO A FEW NIGHT LNDGS. OUR NORMAL APCH TO VNY WITH S WINDS IS A LEFT BASE TO AN APCH TO THE PARALLEL TXWY OF RWY 16L. SINCE OUR PLAN WAS TO DO MULTIPLE NIGHT LNDGS. WE REQUESTED AND RECEIVED CLRNC TO LAND ON RWY 16L. ON BASE LEG, I ADVISED THE TWR THAT USE WANTED TO DO SEVERAL LNDGS. THE TWR OPERATOR SAID HE WOULD ARRANGE TO SWITCH US TO THE 16L FREQ (WE WERE OPERATING ON HELI FREQ), AND WE CONTINUED OUR APCH TO THE RWY. WHEN WE HAD INITIALLY REQUESTED TO LAND ON THE RWY, WE WERE CLRED TO DO SO AND TWR SAID THAT DOWNWIND TFC WAS EXTENDING FOR US. ON SHORT FINAL, TWR ASKED IF WE WERE APCHING THE TXWY OR RWY. I TOLD HIM THE RWY. THAT WAS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD CLRNC TO BE. TWR SAID TO LAND AND HOLD, AT WHICH TIME FIXED-WING TFC MADE A GAR OVER THE TOP OF US. WE WERE THEN SWITCHED TO THE RWY FREQ AND WERE INSTRUCTED TO DO OUR NIGHT APCHS IN THE FIXED-WIND PATTERN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.