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Close proximity air carrier-medium large transport GA-small transport north of cvg on parallel approachs to multiple runways.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 186532 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199108 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cvg |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 6500 msl bound upper : 6500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Marginal |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : cvg |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent other landing other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 2900 |
| ASRS Report | 186532 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
While being vectored to ILS 18L, on 15 mi dog leg to final, traffic called at 2 O'clock, 5 mi, same altitude. We were in descent then called 2 O'clock, 2 mi, same altitude. Instructed by ATC to level off. As we did so traffic (small transport) passed off right wing. I asked why there was no TCA at cvg. Answer was they are trying to get one, but it has not been approved. With the increased traffic at cvg, expansion plus new north/south runway, a TCA is definitely in order. We were heading southwest (230 degree) looking into evening sun. Visibility on ground reported 7 mi but visibility at 6500 ft in haze and looking into sun has 1-2 mi at best.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX ACR-MLG GA-SMT N OF CVG ON PARALLEL APCHS TO MULTIPLE RWYS.
Narrative: WHILE BEING VECTORED TO ILS 18L, ON 15 MI DOG LEG TO FINAL, TFC CALLED AT 2 O'CLOCK, 5 MI, SAME ALT. WE WERE IN DSCNT THEN CALLED 2 O'CLOCK, 2 MI, SAME ALT. INSTRUCTED BY ATC TO LEVEL OFF. AS WE DID SO TFC (SMT) PASSED OFF R WING. I ASKED WHY THERE WAS NO TCA AT CVG. ANSWER WAS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET ONE, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED. WITH THE INCREASED TFC AT CVG, EXPANSION PLUS NEW N/S RWY, A TCA IS DEFINITELY IN ORDER. WE WERE HDG SW (230 DEG) LOOKING INTO EVENING SUN. VISIBILITY ON GND RPTED 7 MI BUT VISIBILITY AT 6500 FT IN HAZE AND LOOKING INTO SUN HAS 1-2 MI AT BEST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.