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Attributes | |
ACN | 187512 |
Time | |
Date | 199108 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phl |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 187512 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
We were level at 4000 ft on a 270 degree heading to intercept final for 27R at phl. Approach control mentioned traffic at 10 O'clock at 3500 ft heading north. We did not have this traffic visually but had someone on our TCASII, in the approximately position mentioned. However, this traffic was shown as only 300 ft below us. As we converged the TCASII issued an RA. I was hand flying and put the aircraft in a 1200-1400 FPM climb. After gaining approximately 500-600 ft, TCASII issued an all clear. We returned to our assigned altitude of 4000 ft and the captain informed phl approach of our reason for busting our altitude. He thanked us for the report but said it was a positively idented aircraft. He was busy, cleared us for a visual and gave us a frequency change. This was my first RA issued by TCASII, so I have little to base performance on. It does seem to work as advertised and should be an additional safety tool.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TCASII RA CREATES AN ALT DEV ALT EXCURSION BY FO, PF.
Narrative: WE WERE LEVEL AT 4000 FT ON A 270 DEG HDG TO INTERCEPT FINAL FOR 27R AT PHL. APCH CTL MENTIONED TFC AT 10 O'CLOCK AT 3500 FT HDG N. WE DID NOT HAVE THIS TFC VISUALLY BUT HAD SOMEONE ON OUR TCASII, IN THE APPROX POS MENTIONED. HOWEVER, THIS TFC WAS SHOWN AS ONLY 300 FT BELOW US. AS WE CONVERGED THE TCASII ISSUED AN RA. I WAS HAND FLYING AND PUT THE ACFT IN A 1200-1400 FPM CLB. AFTER GAINING APPROX 500-600 FT, TCASII ISSUED AN ALL CLR. WE RETURNED TO OUR ASSIGNED ALT OF 4000 FT AND THE CAPT INFORMED PHL APCH OF OUR REASON FOR BUSTING OUR ALT. HE THANKED US FOR THE RPT BUT SAID IT WAS A POSITIVELY IDENTED ACFT. HE WAS BUSY, CLRED US FOR A VISUAL AND GAVE US A FREQ CHANGE. THIS WAS MY FIRST RA ISSUED BY TCASII, SO I HAVE LITTLE TO BASE PERFORMANCE ON. IT DOES SEEM TO WORK AS ADVERTISED AND SHOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL SAFETY TOOL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.