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Attributes | |
ACN | 187593 |
Time | |
Date | 199108 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : luk airport : cvg |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9600 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid tracon : luk |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller non radar : 1 controller radar : 11 |
ASRS Report | 187593 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : insufficient time other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
I am a radar controller at ind ARTCC and have been an fpl for 12 yrs. There was an aircraft X inbound on the bucke 2 arrival to day airport (which is a published STAR). There was corp jet Y departing luk airport on the gaill (a published SID). This SID and STAR cross in my airspace and it is a very unsafe and confusing operation. An aircraft on the bucke STAR and an aircraft on the gaill SID can both be exactly where they are supposed to be and there can be a conflict, which happened in my situation. The radar controller has to take some sort of action whenever there is a gaill departure off cvg or luk. In this case, I called cvg approach, got no response. When the aircraft came on my frequency, the 2 in conflict were only 7 mi apart with separation decreasing rapidly. I had about 30 seconds from when the departure called to establish separation. I used a combination of a turn plus altitude, but there was just not enough time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LTSS BTWN CORP JET AND ANOTHER ACFT. OPERROR.
Narrative: I AM A RADAR CTLR AT IND ARTCC AND HAVE BEEN AN FPL FOR 12 YRS. THERE WAS AN ACFT X INBOUND ON THE BUCKE 2 ARR TO DAY ARPT (WHICH IS A PUBLISHED STAR). THERE WAS CORP JET Y DEPARTING LUK ARPT ON THE GAILL (A PUBLISHED SID). THIS SID AND STAR CROSS IN MY AIRSPACE AND IT IS A VERY UNSAFE AND CONFUSING OP. AN ACFT ON THE BUCKE STAR AND AN ACFT ON THE GAILL SID CAN BOTH BE EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AND THERE CAN BE A CONFLICT, WHICH HAPPENED IN MY SITUATION. THE RADAR CTLR HAS TO TAKE SOME SORT OF ACTION WHENEVER THERE IS A GAILL DEP OFF CVG OR LUK. IN THIS CASE, I CALLED CVG APCH, GOT NO RESPONSE. WHEN THE ACFT CAME ON MY FREQ, THE 2 IN CONFLICT WERE ONLY 7 MI APART WITH SEPARATION DECREASING RAPIDLY. I HAD ABOUT 30 SECONDS FROM WHEN THE DEP CALLED TO ESTABLISH SEPARATION. I USED A COMBINATION OF A TURN PLUS ALT, BUT THERE WAS JUST NOT ENOUGH TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.